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So I am by no means a plumberdear but ;).

So do you have a 3way motorized valve or 2? How many pipes?
So you have had another "stanner" come in and work on it?
So what controller do you have?
You now cant fire up up boiler, why?

I really don't understand how this has got from a system (sort of working) to a system that doesn't do anything.


J
We are all agog at a plumberer that takes money from a customer to get a system working and leaves again without said system being fully functional. :mad: Especially leaving a pump without it's control connection and only the power side wired up. :mad::mad:
I thought Stan had a very simple "Y" plan system except he says his is H/W or CH but never both.
That sort of suggests a 2-way valve to put pumped output via 1 circuit or the other but not both (no mid-position).

Having no CH this time of year is no fun at all. :(
 
We fink its edgars burfday this month. He will be 3. But not 3 cos we gorrim in 2019 but had to replace him when he died. He were borned before we gorrim but we dun't know when. So we is calling it 3 to be safe.
We gorra new one this year, like yours the old one died somehow. We leaves his pot outside and normally that is enuff. And no one can say it didn't rain enuff over the summer.:(
 
We are all agog at a plumberer that takes money from a customer to get a system working and leaves again without said system being fully functional. :mad: Especially leaving a pump without it's control connection and only the power side wired up. :mad::mad:
I thought Stan had a very simple "Y" plan system except he says his is H/W or CH but never both.
That sort of suggests a 2-way valve to put pumped output via 1 circuit or the other but not both (no mid-position).

Having no CH this time of year is no fun at all. :(
Soz, I am laughing at the idea that he has taken money from me! Not a chance!
I guess he had another customer lined up as he thought the job would be simples and it turned out not to be. So after phoning up his mate about the wiring of the motorised valve and deciding that despite having done this correctly, it was all beyond him, he told me he'd get a sparky in. which to be fair he has arranged quite quickly, considering how "rammed" all the plumberers and heating engineers always are at this time of year. He then beggared off to do the other job he had lined up.
The pump should be OK with only its power side wired in, according to the installation instructions etc, (see previous posts and links) the other little plug is simply an option on some systems, but not ours.
I didn't say it is HW OR CH but never both, here is what I said "What he had trouble "getting" is that the old boiler only ever worked as "HW only" or "HW and CH", it could never do "CH only"."
This was quite normal for a long time and TBH I have only ever lived in one house that allowed you to have CH only on. And that system was fitted in a house that belonged to a gas engineer.
So this house, my previous house, my Dad's house and our previous house to that all had either HW or HW and CH.
I have spent a lot of time this arvo rewiring a socket that suddenly decided to be intermittently working. In the process I had to source some new earth wiring as the body and face plate of the plug are all metal. This was fun as I don't have it in stock. I pnched a bit from the long crossbonding wire I will be attaching to a sink when I plumb it in, it is miles long so could afford to lose a bit. But of course it had too many strands in so I had to flip about making sure it had the right cross section, i.e.e only two strands, to replace the original, plus the earth coloured insualtion sleeve. Such a pain working stretched out over the washing machine, especially as it isn't a spur but part of the ring, so every connection is to two wires and they never seem to be long enough. anyway, got to the bottom of it, put it all back together and the smoke stayed in the wires when I tested it.

W wanted my help deciding on menus and wines to go with over the Xmas week when we'll be away in the Dales. So that took a bit of fiddling around with spreadsheets (where I keep track of the wine and their prices) to make sure we only take the very best ones with us.

So CH wiring fiddling around with has now been put off until tomoz. Normally Sunday is the one day we do very little. Plus W has been in a moody all day, in a lot of pain with her guts, poor thing.
Enjoy the evening folks!:):):)
 
Soz, I am laughing at the idea that he has taken money from me! Not a chance!
I guess he had another customer lined up as he thought the job would be simples and it turned out not to be. So after phoning up his mate about the wiring of the motorised valve and deciding that despite having done this correctly, it was all beyond him, he told me he'd get a sparky in. which to be fair he has arranged quite quickly, considering how "rammed" all the plumberers and heating engineers always are at this time of year. He then beggared off to do the other job he had lined up.
The pump should be OK with only its power side wired in, according to the installation instructions etc, (see previous posts and links) the other little plug is simply an option on some systems, but not ours.
I didn't say it is HW OR CH but never both, here is what I said "What he had trouble "getting" is that the old boiler only ever worked as "HW only" or "HW and CH", it could never do "CH only"."
This was quite normal for a long time and TBH I have only ever lived in one house that allowed you to have CH only on. And that system was fitted in a house that belonged to a gas engineer.
So this house, my previous house, my Dad's house and our previous house to that all had either HW or HW and CH.
I have spent a lot of time this arvo rewiring a socket that suddenly decided to be intermittently working. In the process I had to source some new earth wiring as the body and face plate of the plug are all metal. This was fun as I don't have it in stock. I pnched a bit from the long crossbonding wire I will be attaching to a sink when I plumb it in, it is miles long so could afford to lose a bit. But of course it had too many strands in so I had to flip about making sure it had the right cross section, i.e.e only two strands, to replace the original, plus the earth coloured insualtion sleeve. Such a pain working stretched out over the washing machine, especially as it isn't a spur but part of the ring, so every connection is to two wires and they never seem to be long enough. anyway, got to the bottom of it, put it all back together and the smoke stayed in the wires when I tested it.

W wanted my help deciding on menus and wines to go with over the Xmas week when we'll be away in the Dales. So that took a bit of fiddling around with spreadsheets (where I keep track of the wine and their prices) to make sure we only take the very best ones with us.

So CH wiring fiddling around with has now been put off until tomoz. Normally Sunday is the one day we do very little. Plus W has been in a moody all day, in a lot of pain with her guts, poor thing.
Enjoy the evening folks!:):):)
Good to hear that he had not plundered your wallet and only plumbdered. ;)
 
Santa did well handing out selection boxes from the truck, sun shone throughout as well.
 

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So I am by no means a plumberdear but ;).

So do you have a 3way motorized valve or 2? How many pipes?
So you have had another "stanner" come in and work on it?
So what controller do you have?
You now cant fire up up boiler, why?

I really don't understand how this has got from a system (sort of working) to a system that doesn't do anything.


J
3 pipes go into it, it may be a 3 way valve but I'm not sure.
I have only had the one plumber come i to work on both this and the stop-cock. But he has got a sparks who will be coming on Tuesday.
The controller we use is a Potterton 2001
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A LOT more sophisticated that the one attached to the boiler which never worked before anyway. This one gives us ons and offs for everything for any day of the week.
Here is the original which shows how you cannot have CH only. This is the one that the other one is piggy-backed onto.
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This shows how both programmers are on the same boiler!

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We gorra new one this year, like yours the old one died somehow. We leaves his pot outside and normally that is enuff. And no one can say it didn't rain enuff over the summer.:(
That may be the problem. After buying sourcers for my plants eye realised edgar drinks at least twice what other plants do. We dun't gerrynuff rain in the summer for his sourcer to stay topped up.
 
New outside tap finished off this morning. Had a microscopic drip on a compression joint under the sink which was sorted with a small nip-up of the nut, kept an eye on it over the weekend. Turned the supply on this morning and had a small drip at the joint where the tap screws in to its backplate. Sorted in a couple of minutes with a few extra turns of ptfe tape. Now all good :D

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