Was there ever a Freelander 1 Diesel built without a turbo?

GWOA · Dec 15, 2024

Hi!
Sorry for the stupid question in advance.
Today someone told me that he has a Freelander 1 Diesel 2.0 from 2000 without a turbo. Can this be true?
I don't belive it, but you never know...
regards, Christian

Nodge68 · Dec 15, 2024

Not in the EU. I don't know about outside the EU though. Some didn't have an intercooler, but most did.

saxavordian · Dec 15, 2024

Would have been a plodder. As the range of engine for the Freelander 1 especially petrol, would have been better alternative.

Alibro · Monday at 08:21

It probably has an L series diesel rather than the TD4. This would make it feel like it had no turbo even though it did.

GWOA · Monday at 16:32

Hi, thank you for your answers! I am almost sure it has an L-Series Diesel....

GrumpyGel · Monday at 16:35

Alibro said:
It probably has an L series diesel rather than the TD4. This would make it feel like it had no turbo even though it did.

Excuse me.

I'll have you know my L Series is a street racer in disguise.

Very very very heavily disguised as an old plodder.

Alibro · Tuesday at 09:54

GWOA said:
Hi, thank you for your answers! I am almost sure it has an L-Series Diesel....

I think I heard somewhere that with a bit of tweaking an L series can be made like Grumpy suggests but I've not done it myself.

GrumpyGel · Tuesday at 16:57

Alibro said:
I think I heard somewhere that with a bit of tweaking an L series can be made like Grumpy suggests but I've not done it myself.

The way I take it is that 'performance' mods give you a bit more power and a lot more smoke.

Alibro · Tuesday at 19:08

GrumpyGel said:
The way I take it is that 'performance' mods give you a bit more power and a lot more smoke.

That is how the TD4 boost worked but not certain about the L series. I owned an L series around 18 years ago and was surprised how gutless it was.
Plus how poor the brakes were.

GrumpyGel · Wednesday at 08:28

Alibro said:
That is how the TD4 boost worked but not certain about the L series. I owned an L series around 18 years ago and was surprised how gutless it was.
Plus how poor the brakes were.

The brakes thing is interesting.

The brake system changed quite a bit in 2000, but before that the K shared the same brakes as the L series.

@htr, with his early K, and me with my L got together here in Chch a while back and one of the topics that came up was brakes. He had always felt his brakes were poor and had put a lot of effort into trying to improve them... uprated discs, different types of pads, lots of bleeding, but without success. The brakes on my L though were noticeably better. Over the years, just about every part in my brake system from the ABS modulator onwards has been replaced, but only with 'standard' (not necessarily genuine, but aftermarket) parts and the braking has been consistent.

It would seem therefore that some cars just brake betterer than others... for reasons unknown.

Alibro · Wednesday at 09:57

GrumpyGel said:
The brakes thing is interesting.

The brake system changed quite a bit in 2000, but before that the K shared the same brakes as the L series.

@htr, with his early K, and me with my L got together here in Chch a while back and one of the topics that came up was brakes. He had always felt his brakes were poor and had put a lot of effort into trying to improve them... uprated discs, different types of pads, lots of bleeding, but without success. The brakes on my L though were noticeably better. Over the years, just about every part in my brake system from the ABS modulator onwards has been replaced, but only with 'standard' (not necessarily genuine, but aftermarket) parts and the braking has been consistent.

It would seem therefore that some cars just brake betterer than others... for reasons unknown.

The L Series Freelander we had was SWMBO's so I didn't drive it often but every time I did I was surprised at how hard I had to push the brake pedal. She was used to it and has strong legs so never noticed an issue.
Is it possible the issue was the vac pump?
Did they change the brake boost at some time and did he try using one from a TD4?

GrumpyGel · Wednesday at 16:55

Alibro said:
The L Series Freelander we had was SWMBO's so I didn't drive it often but every time I did I was surprised at how hard I had to push the brake pedal. She was used to it and has strong legs so never noticed an issue.
Is it possible the issue was the vac pump?
Did they change the brake boost at some time and did he try using one from a TD4?

Dunno tbh.

I have considered swapping the bits over from my 2001 K Series parts car. Also considered swapping over its vented disks and calipers. But I haven't really felt the need and, although I've done a lot of maintenance on the brakes over the years, I'm quite reluctant to muck around with the braking system.

Alibro · Thursday at 08:39

GrumpyGel said:
Dunno tbh.

I have considered swapping the bits over from my 2001 K Series parts car. Also considered swapping over its vented disks and calipers. But I haven't really felt the need and, although I've done a lot of maintenance on the brakes over the years, I'm quite reluctant to muck around with the braking system.

You know the rule GG
If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!!!

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