I would just like to say

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Stanleysteamer said:
The "coming apart sometimes" rather negates how they are supposed to work or so I'd have thought, but as there will only be one or two connections in a very short pipe run under a sink before the final pipe which goes out of the building I am not worrying about movement.

Thanks again for all clarification.
You would have thort they'd put this on their website, but maybe not.
"Caution these blessed things can come apart sometimes!!!"🤣🤣🤣
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I have seen them used and the weight of the water along with expansion has caused them to come apart or the pipes droop down, solvent weld is best and if you need a bit to come apart the mechanical compression ones are good.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
OK, I give up!

How on earth do you separate a 40mm push-fit FloPlast connector?

Neither I nor the guy in Scroofix could work it out.
I'd experiment if I had lots of spare 40mm pipe, but I don't. No collet no collar except one that just seems to turn, very reluctant to trial fit one on a bit of pipe just to find out,
@brianp38dse is you there?:(
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I thought you just pushed the collar in and it released the pipe, and you turned the collars to lock them so they won't push in?
 
... that my "concern" over my missing national pension element is resolved. :D
I am actually delinquent on the National Pension front by the princely sum of around £48 every 4 weeks (the scoundrels! ;) ).
But, to compensate for this massive loss in my state pension I got the "non-contributory" element of my IBM pension and the IBM pension is currently at least eleven grand a year. So all in all, I am sadly likely to be hitting the 40% tax bracket even as a pensioner. :( Ha! Ha!
 
brianp38dse said:
They are just push fit, you just pull the pipe out they dont lock or anything like that, the main problem with them is the pipes can move and come apart some times.
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You'll be amused to hear that the pipe is in fact 43mm as I worked out after trying it. (House built in about 1984.
So the fitting won't go on anyway. As a compression fitting would fit I assumed a push fit would. Wrong! So back to the drawing board. Shame as the push fit would have given me a neat solution. :(
 
brianp38dse said:
I have seen them used and the weight of the water along with expansion has caused them to come apart or the pipes droop down, solvent weld is best and if you need a bit to come apart the mechanical compression ones are good.
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As you'll have seen by now. I'm forced to go with one or the other of your last two suggestions. :rolleyes:
Again thanks for the info.:):)
 
DanClarke said:
I thought you just pushed the collar in and it released the pipe, and you turned the collars to lock them so they won't push in?
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There are various types of push fit and the one you describe is like the ones you use on water pipes. But these aren't like that and the FloPlast blokey has just emailed me and said the same as others have, that you just have to use force to pull them apart.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
You'll be amused to hear that the pipe is in fact 43mm as I worked out after trying it. (House built in about 1984.
So the fitting won't go on anyway. As a compression fitting would fit I assumed a push fit would. Wrong! So back to the drawing board. Shame as the push fit would have given me a neat solution. :(
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Is that 43 OD?
Cos that 40 ID
Which is the right size :oops: init?

J
 
DanClarke said:
... that my "concern" over my missing national pension element is resolved. :D
I am actually delinquent on the National Pension front by the princely sum of around £48 every 4 weeks (the scoundrels! ;) ).
But, to compensate for this massive loss in my state pension I got the "non-contributory" element of my IBM pension and the IBM pension is currently at least eleven grand a year. So all in all, I am sadly likely to be hitting the 40% tax bracket even as a pensioner. :( Ha! Ha!
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Well you've not done too badly then.

Wait a mo, you'd have to have total pensions of £50k to have to pay higher rate tax. Are you sure you don't mean simply ornery tax at 20%? cos you'll deffo be paying that.;)
 
marjon said:
Is that 43 OD?
Cos that 40 ID
Which is the right size :oops: init?

J
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the push fit fittings are designed to fit 40 mm OD or 41 mm if you look elsewhere on the labelling/ packaging. No way the end of the fitting could fit inside 43 mm!!!

Researched a bit further and 43 mm is to be found but I guess it is much rarer. Maybe muchly disused or discontinued.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
🤣🤣🤣
the push fit fittings are designed to fit 40 mm OD or 41 mm if you look elsewhere on the labelling/ packaging. No way the end of the fitting could fit inside 43 mm!!!

Researched a bit further and 43 mm is to be found but I guess it is much rarer. Maybe muchly disused or discontinued.
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Guess you are down to solvent or compression then. It’s far from discontinued

Or do what they do here, get your blowlamp out heat it up and push the pipe in to join or Bend ;) Works though.

j
 
Stanleysteamer said:
EDIT just seen you said "under cover" so it should not get any wetter but it does need to be dried out, I do get that. Last thing you want is mildew. mould etc destroying your fittings. Do hope they sort it out. 🤞 🤞
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They have little option as it is still under warranty and the manufacturer closely guards its reputation for top quality vehicles and service - they keep a very close eye on dealers who must comply with the 'rules' set by them. They are aware that this is a reported problem,
 
Stone56 said:
made to come apart easily but champher the leading edge
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Always do that, to remove any burrs which might nick the rubber seal. (I use the word rubber without regard to the current abuse of this word). And put a little grease on the pipe end to aid insertion and future removal (again these words are used in a purely technical manner :p)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
🤣🤣🤣
the push fit fittings are designed to fit 40 mm OD or 41 mm if you look elsewhere on the labelling/ packaging. No way the end of the fitting could fit inside 43 mm!!!

Researched a bit further and 43 mm is to be found but I guess it is much rarer. Maybe muchly disused or discontinued.
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Push fit is normally 40mm od and solvent weld is 42mm od classed as 1"1/2 pipe
the macalpine mechanical fittings will work on both sizes
 
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