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I can agree about this. But it is just that peeps earning what they do in that job feel "entitled" to more luxury. If prospective MPs knew they would be having to spend part of their working time living as if they were doing National Service I think we would get a lot fewer takers!
Mind you, yet again, I'd love to see the Tory party reduced to only those who had been in the services.

oops, forgot, Public School dorms, canteens and communal showers are much the same, I should know having gone through it for 9 years!
EDIT. They probably are no longer like that seeing as how I left in 1972.:(:(:(
Back to the drawing board!!!

Wait a minute here.......... You were the teacher why were you in the communal showering with the pupils 🤣 🤣
All boys too :oops::p:p:p🤣
 
New lad from the demolition crew arrived to start gas axing the ship, turned up with no burning of cutting gear & no ppe ???
Sat in his van all day & done nowt. :mad::mad: He was hung over I could smell booze of him. Yard owner was asking whats going
on with them, what could I say im not sticking up for them they get paid when the metal goes away so guess what no pennys
made today. :confused:
 
Eye fink yer will find what they can claim is capped so it will be a flat. Some of them flat share.
I have had to dig pretty deep to find all this, but this is what I found, if the MP doesn't rent but has two properties, one in London and one elsewhere.
"4.4 Associated costs include:a. utility bills (gas, electricity, other fuel and water);b. council tax;c. ground rent and service charges;d. in the case of MPs claiming under 4.3c, buildings insurance;e. purchase, installation and maintenance of ‘routine’ security measures, i.e. not those whichare now funded by the House of Commons as recommended or further security measures(see Chapter 10);f. installation of a landline telephone line, line rental and usage charges; andg. installation of a broadband connection and usage charges"

and "4.6 MPs may only claim for accommodation costs in relation to a property at one location, whichmay be either in the London Area, or in the MP's constituency, unless IPSA agrees that there areexceptional circumstances that justify claims for properties in both."

So it doesn't have to be a flat. and no they can't sublet any of it.
"4.7 Where MPs are claiming for rent and/or associated costs, they must be resident at the propertyfor which claims are being made, and may not sublet the property, or any part of it."
There may be a situation where two or more MPs could share a place but they would have to make some kind of a special arrangement. i.e. a joint rental agreement.

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So these are costs they can legitimately claim.

As for the costs of hotels they are capped, "9.27 Hotel costs claimed under travel and subsistence are subject to nightly cost limits, as set out in Annex A."

They can also claim for travel for their partners and kids.
 
How did you find these?, any idea if they fix on the OEM seats?
If you look back to my first post on this where I googled a general query, they were one of the things that came up.
But Carbuildersolutions is one of the more famous kit car stuff providers.
You see, kit cars often have very narrow places in which to fit seats. (It's because oftentimes the wheels are mounted outside the body, think Lotus 7, so the chassis rails are narrow.) Most aftermarket seats won't fit, so you end up either buying them from the kit car manufacturer, one or two models only available from the usual aftermarket seat providers, or (deep breath) you make your own!

So this is a bit like what you may need to do. My last set for instance were to go in a 30s style roadster. I got some old Morris 1000 seats stripped them, narrowed the frame, re upholstered them, giving them a curved back on the way, then fiddling around with the donor vehicles' Ford Cortina runners. There is no real secret to them. You just need to mount the runners to the floor, strongly, so you may need reinforcement under the floor, or on top of it, then mess about finding a way to mount the seats to the tops of the runners, which again is just simply nuts and bolts.
If you can take some measurements off the seats, you could ring them up and tell them what you need. Distances between front and rear mounting bolt holes, ditto across, back to back, front to front. If you get the ones that have a bar going across the front, you can always cut the bar and either shrink it or extend it with welding.

Europa do them too.

https://europaspares.com/pages/search.php I just went to Europa's site then searched for "seat runner".

You could possibly find something here as well.


Tbh I'd expect your seats to be a fairly standard size.

Demon Tweeks do them of course.

 
Wait a minute here.......... You were the teacher why were you in the communal showering with the pupils 🤣 🤣
All boys too :oops::p:p:p🤣
Oh dear, your maffs is well out.
I was at boarding (some of the time) school, as a nipper from 1963 to 1972, so I left when I was seventeen.
I started teaching in 1981. and not in a boarding school, so no dormitories!
If I had even started teaching in 1972, I'd be how old now?
(Show your working in your answer please!!! )
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
If you look back to my first post on this where I googled a general query, they were one of the things that came up.
But Carbuildersolutions is one of the more famous kit car stuff providers.
You see, kit cars often have very narrow places in which to fit seats. (It's because oftentimes the wheels are mounted outside the body, think Lotus 7, so the chassis rails are narrow.) Most aftermarket seats won't fit, so you end up either buying them from the kit car manufacturer, one or two models only available from the usual aftermarket seat providers, or (deep breath) you make your own!

So this is a bit like what you may need to do. My last set for instance were to go in a 30s style roadster. I got some old Morris 1000 seats stripped them, narrowed the frame, re upholstered them, giving them a curved back on the way, then fiddling around with the donor vehicles' Ford Cortina runners. There is no real secret to them. You just need to mount the runners to the floor, strongly, so you may need reinforcement under the floor, or on top of it, then mess about finding a way to mount the seats to the tops of the runners, which again is just simply nuts and bolts.
If you can take some measurements off the seats, you could ring them up and tell them what you need. Distances between front and rear mounting bolt holes, ditto across, back to back, front to front. If you get the ones that have a bar going across the front, you can always cut the bar and either shrink it or extend it with welding.

Europa do them too.

https://europaspares.com/pages/search.php I just went to Europa's site then searched for "seat runner".

You could possibly find something here as well.


Tbh I'd expect your seats to be a fairly standard size.

Demon Tweeks do them of course.

Cheers appreciate it.

This was going to be my last last resort option of just getting some and doing what you said.. bringing out the trusty welder.
 
Oh dear, your maffs is well out.
I was at boarding (some of the time) school, as a nipper from 1963 to 1972, so I left when I was seventeen.
I started teaching in 1981. and not in a boarding school, so no dormitories!
If I had even started teaching in 1972, I'd be how old now?
(Show your working in your answer please!!! )
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

105 🤣 🤣 🤣 or 68ish
 
Cheers appreciate it.

This was going to be my last last resort option of just getting some and doing what you said.. bringing out the trusty welder.
No probs. hope you find what you need.
Aftermarket seat manaufacturers make a bomb out of scaring people into letting them or their "friends" fit them. They go on about TUV etc etc.
But anyone with a brain, a drill and or a welder can fit them. You just need to make sure you adjust them, end to end, (the slider I mean) before finalising the fittings, or they can bind, stick or even refuse to budge if you don't get them quite right.

It helps to make up a dummy board out of ply or summat. Fit it to the bottom of the seat by drilling holes and using bolts then remove it, and work as if it was the seat, using the holes and the bolts to decide where to drill any necessary extra holes in the runners. It is much easier to do this than to constantly have to unbolt, reposition and bolt back in the whole seat. And you can see it from the top which makes it much, much easier to do. It is also useful if you have to modify the width of the runner fitment as I mentioned above, you just bolt it to the board, with the bar cut then you can accurately measure up what you need to do. Once welded up you can then take the whole assembly to the car to work out where you need to modify the floor fitment.

You can either start with the car fitment points and then wrok your way up, using the board, or start with the seat and work your way down. It is easier to do it than to explain it! But common sense will see you OK.

If the very worse comes to the worst, you could make up an adaptor frame or a thick sheet of steel so it goes - floor mounting, adapter frame, runners, seats. Or runners, adapter plate, seat.
I had to do this mounting a very expensive after market seat into the Mini Cooper copy I made.
Having sold the Mini I still have the seat and the "useless" runners it came with! I just made up an adaptor plate, mounted it to the seat and then to the original Mini runners.

All good fun!
 
I have had to dig pretty deep to find all this, but this is what I found, if the MP doesn't rent but has two properties, one in London and one elsewhere.
"4.4 Associated costs include:a. utility bills (gas, electricity, other fuel and water);b. council tax;c. ground rent and service charges;d. in the case of MPs claiming under 4.3c, buildings insurance;e. purchase, installation and maintenance of ‘routine’ security measures, i.e. not those whichare now funded by the House of Commons as recommended or further security measures(see Chapter 10);f. installation of a landline telephone line, line rental and usage charges; andg. installation of a broadband connection and usage charges"

and "4.6 MPs may only claim for accommodation costs in relation to a property at one location, whichmay be either in the London Area, or in the MP's constituency, unless IPSA agrees that there areexceptional circumstances that justify claims for properties in both."

So it doesn't have to be a flat. and no they can't sublet any of it.
"4.7 Where MPs are claiming for rent and/or associated costs, they must be resident at the propertyfor which claims are being made, and may not sublet the property, or any part of it."
There may be a situation where two or more MPs could share a place but they would have to make some kind of a special arrangement. i.e. a joint rental agreement.

from

So these are costs they can legitimately claim.

As for the costs of hotels they are capped, "9.27 Hotel costs claimed under travel and subsistence are subject to nightly cost limits, as set out in Annex A."

They can also claim for travel for their partners and kids.
Some of them are quite open to flat share. 2 or more mp's in said flat. Renting, buying or upkeep of a house, compared to a flat, in london, is serious money. Hence they go for flats unless they have family with them as they're there most the time. It would be impusdible to stay for a week in a hotel. Where would they leave their stuff, their papers, work doc's etc. Cleaning staff would be going into the room.
 
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