I would just like to say

Hippo said:

Peeps are too worried about cranks snapping and making sure mods are done. Yer can gerra cheap rr or d3/4 for 3 or 4k on ebay. Nearly all need a replacement engine or gearbox. Some only 12 years old. If yer get yer own diagnostics then yer can fix em yerself. But they is still full ov eggspensive parts when old.

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How can you be too worried if they all need a replacement engine/gearbox?

kermit_rr said:

How can you be too worried if they all need a replacement engine/gearbox?

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Eye fink the owners are being very honest. Just needs 5k spending onnit and it will run like a dream. But they wont take the risk themselfs then sellit themselfs for more sovs. Fing is yer buying a car at 10 to 15% ovvits origional value. Thats near end of life, or no body wants it, kind ov money. Garages who can do this sort ov wuk would be snapping them up to do up iffit was profitable. To do it yerself its a risk but there's plenty on ere who keep their heeps going.

Hippo said:

Eye fink the owners are being very honest. Just needs 5k spending onnit and it will run like a dream. But they wont take the risk themselfs then sellit themselfs for more sovs. Fing is yer buying a car at 10 to 15% ovvits origional value. Thats near end of life, or no body wants it, kind ov money. Garages who can do this sort ov wuk would be snapping them up to do up iffit was profitable. To do it yerself its a risk but there's plenty on ere who keep their heeps going.

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What you're saying then, is a disco selling for £5-10k now is going to need the same again budgeted for the near future.

Or spend £20k now and it may or may not last 3-5 years

Is it co-incidence or collusion?

When I came back from my last trip away in the HM I noticed straight away that there was a problem with brakes in the D4 - its week's rest had not done it any good.Dealer said to bring it in and they'd have a look as it sounded like something was sticking. On the way there I got a warning light. The outcome was a new set of rear discs and brakepads, the discs they reckoned where the originals from 2012 and had done well at 96000k but were now very corroded - they did the work there and then, 3 hours work altogether and a bill for just under £600 - fine, Im good to go and happy BUT they reported that I had a big, deep slice out of the inner edge of a rear tyre through which the cord was exposed - OK I'll do somethig about that the next day, doing price research first and being also aware that I would have to buy 2 tyres for the rear axle. I usually buy 4 at a time but the tyres that are on are not even half worn, so 2 it was going to be. Three days later 2 tyres fitted - £360. They reported that the tyre wear on the original tyres pointed to the need to have the tracking checked. Three days later all done - £30.

This is a lesson on how to spend a grand in just 7 days on a vehicle which is highly maintained by a good LR dealer ,they do exist.

Three different places did each stage of the work and the reports, in three different counties with no know link to each other and I'm left wondering is it just coincidence that these defects were noted by different places after they had completed the work I had asked for, or are they all in colusion to stitch me up??????

kermit_rr said:

What you're saying then, is a disco selling for £5-10k now is going to need the same again budgeted for the near future.

Or spend £20k now and it may or may not last 3-5 years

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Sort ov. The 5k ones are bargin basement ferra reason.

Looking from a very safe distance, they all get engine, gearbox, suspenshun and lectric problems in old age. Eye does look in the disco and big freelander sections occasionally. They have known problens and lots ov fixes like any other car. But the big problems like engine/gearbox reconditionning seem to be required as mileage creeps up. Sometimes in early miles. In general, a big freelander needs a golden service at 100k miles, where lots ov fings need done, to make it reliable for the next (10) 50k miles. Like suspenshun air bags replaced. The sort ov stuff yer dunt need to do wiv a propper freelander.

When peeps ask me about buying 4x4's eye always point oot eye dunt need one. Eye choose to have one, me beloved hippo. I wouldn't buy a d3/4 or big freelander, as eye dun't need a big car like eye already has. Hence eye dunt need an even biggerer one like buying a biggerer lr product.

Its not just about the origional purchase price. Yer gorra be abke to tax, service and insure it. Also put some sovs aside for repairs.

A cheap d3/4 at say 4k sovs with a broken gearbox or engine needs money to fix it. Those items can fail at a much lower age and miles. It just depends if yer willing to risk it and what it costs. If you look at the age of vehicles being caught up in the sunbeam street engine scam... some are not long out of manufacturer warranty. They may be nice to drive when working but anyone who wants one needs ter seriously get to know the problems to look out for, in my opinion.

When buying jounger cars with lower mileages they're generally in betterer condition. That doesn't alway seem to be the case with all large lr priducts.

derwendolly said:

Is it co-incidence or collusion?

When I came back from my last trip away in the HM I noticed straight away that there was a problem with brakes in the D4 - its week's rest had not done it any good.Dealer said to bring it in and they'd have a look as it sounded like something was sticking. On the way there I got a warning light. The outcome was a new set of rear discs and brakepads, the later they reckoned where the originals from 2012 and had done well at 96000k but were now very corroded - they did the work there and then, 3 hours work altogether and a bill for just under £600 - fine, Im good to go and happy BUT they reported that I had a big, deep slice out of the inner edge of a rear tyre through which the cord was exposed - OK I'll do somethig about that the next day, doing price research first and being also aware that I would have to buy 2 tyres for the rear axle. I usually buy 4 at a time but the tyres that are on are not even half worn, so 2 it was going to be. Three days later 2 tyres fitted - £360. They reported that the tyre wear on the original tyres pointed to the need to have the tracking checked. Three days later all done - £30.

This is a lesson on how to spend a grand in just 7 days on a vehicle which is highly maintained by a good LR dealer ,they do exist.

Three different places did each stage of the work and the reports, in three different counties with no know link to each other and I'm left wondering is it just coincidence that these defects were noted by different places after they had completed the work I had asked for, or are they all in colusion to stitch me up??????

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Tis a natural flow. Brake fault appears and they need changed. They notice the tyre is broke'd. Uneven wear normally means tyre is leaning over to one side, so tracking needs done. Peep who did the brakes should have warned about uneven wear iffit was that obvious. Perhap not but most mechanics would know about that sort ov fing eye would have fort.

Hippo said:

Tis a natural flow. Brake fault appears and they need changed. They notice the tyre is broke'd. Uneven wear normally means tyre is leaning over to one side, so tracking needs done. Peep who did the brakes should have warned about uneven wear iffit was that obvious. Perhap not but most mechanics would know about that sort ov fing eye would have fort.

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That's my thinking, too. The wear was coming on the same edge of all four tyres and, although not bad, I think they were being helpful to try to get the longest life out the whole set - £180 each is not inconsiderable I suppose.

derwendolly said:

That's my thinking, too. The wear was coming on the same edge of all four tyres and, although not bad, I think they were being helpful to try to get the longest life out the whole set - £180 each is not inconsiderable I suppose.

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My FL2 is 150 sovs a tyre pre covid. Same make lr fitted when new.

The wear on the same edge... was that the outer edge on all of them, or say the left edge when stood behing the car looking at all 4 tyres while fitted?

Normally onna service tyres are swapped round to even oot the wear. A cord showing on a tyre is an mot fail. Tis also a major potentual weak point for failure.

derwendolly said:

Is it co-incidence or collusion?

When I came back from my last trip away in the HM I noticed straight away that there was a problem with brakes in the D4 - its week's rest had not done it any good.Dealer said to bring it in and they'd have a look as it sounded like something was sticking. On the way there I got a warning light. The outcome was a new set of rear discs and brakepads, the discs they reckoned where the originals from 2012 and had done well at 96000k but were now very corroded - they did the work there and then, 3 hours work altogether and a bill for just under £600 - fine, Im good to go and happy BUT they reported that I had a big, deep slice out of the inner edge of a rear tyre through which the cord was exposed - OK I'll do somethig about that the next day, doing price research first and being also aware that I would have to buy 2 tyres for the rear axle. I usually buy 4 at a time but the tyres that are on are not even half worn, so 2 it was going to be. Three days later 2 tyres fitted - £360. They reported that the tyre wear on the original tyres pointed to the need to have the tracking checked. Three days later all done - £30.

This is a lesson on how to spend a grand in just 7 days on a vehicle which is highly maintained by a good LR dealer ,they do exist.

Three different places did each stage of the work and the reports, in three different counties with no know link to each other and I'm left wondering is it just coincidence that these defects were noted by different places after they had completed the work I had asked for, or are they all in colusion to stitch me up??????

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Yes.

Afternoon folks.

Another lovely sunny day here.
Been in the garage again and achieved the task, which means the plan to go out and eat tomorrow is on as I dont have to go back out to the garage.
M went into town for some shopping, and I think she got a roast chicken. Also gave her nephew a driving lesson in the Mud ball sounds like he did ok.

Now gonna give me hands some healing time as they look like I have been out bare-knuckle fighting, I have found that as I have got older my skin seems thinner and if I put my hand/arm in a tight space and apply pressure it brings blood to just under the surface, Sometimes it just goes back down after a few days, sometimes it can form like a blood blister. Joys of getting older.

J

Hermes are still rubbish even after changing their name
They've collected, lost at depot.. seemingly.

kermit_rr said:

Hermes are still rubbish even after changing their name
They've collected, lost at depot.. seemingly.

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Do they do it with Evri parcel now?

Hippo said:

Yer ain't lived. Tis a world ov power yer gets wivva check book.

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The Frogs still use them a lot, especially the crumblies. Tis feckin annoying when you are stuck behind them in the soopermarkit checkout or the petrol kiosk place!!

kermit_rr said:

Hermes are still rubbish even after changing their name
They've collected, lost at depot.. seemingly.

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The trade name for thems was an infection. They may have changed their name to gerraway frommit.

Stanleysteamer said:

The Frogs still use them a lot, especially the crumblies. Tis feckin annoying when you are stuck behind them in the soopermarkit checkout or the petrol kiosk place!!

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Does they not use/trust/love plastic cards like we does int uk?

Hippo said:

Can yer gettid one on hire frew the mobility schene. Tis cheaper.

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@Avocet1 might be able to help since his business is converting cars for disabled peeps.

Hippo said:

47. Clocks go back.

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Nope 49, you get an extra hour in bed.

Stanleysteamer said:

Nope 49, you get an extra hour in bed.

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Not on this fred

Stanleysteamer said:

Nope 49, you get an extra hour in bed.

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Yer but no but too much time a sheep is bad fer ewe

Busy day …

sorted Dad at 6:30am, his carer came at 7:30am to give him breakfast and a cuppa, said he’d be back for the tea/bed call at 4:00pm

weekend carers are usually pot-luck with who you get, but this guy, Harri is a good ‘in.

lunchtime call usually 11:30 - 12:30

12:45 Dad phones me, to say when he phoned the carer hub office to ask when his lunchtime call would be, the guy said “humph, I’ll send some one around 3:00pm”

I phoned the office and it went straight to voicemail so had my rant and went to feed Dad