Glous Lanes = Tossers abound >:(

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Personally, I think that pointing out that the majority of us think that these idiots are idiots is better than keeping quite and people assuming that we agree with what they're doing.

As for reporting them - yes, it's a danger. Probably best to also offer to help catch them (with photos and videos etc) and better still, offer to help fix the damage, with the help of CRAG/GLASS/TreadLightly etc.

The damage will be reported anyway - the walkers aren't worried about TROs.

If we want to be treated as RESPONSIBLE green laners, then we need to take responsibility for he lanes - and that includes trying to stop the idiots as well as fixing the damage and driving nicely etc.

JamesB said:

You too are a moron!! I didnt say everyone that hunts is a toff but lets be real, most people who fox hunt are toffs!!

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Define a TOFF for me please?

What exactly do you mean by that? What makes someone a TOFF and why is this bad?

I agree (shock!! Horror!!) with Tim C.

Nothing wrong with posting torn-up lanes if we're condemning the people who torn them up, and asking for people to forego driving them, or repair them. Might help the bobblehats to see that we are actually aware and that we can be sensible about what we do. My only concern is that the bobblies might just take the pictures out of context and apply their own wording to them, ignoring the real reason they are posted!

Not an easy call to make ....

Foxhunters are pillocks.They always miss a trick, me bins go out every thursday evening foxes come every thursday rip the **** out of em and every friday morning when im already late for work i pick buts of rubbish up off me front garden.Fox hunting in the countryside?PAH!

Paul D said:

I agree (shock!! Horror!!) with Tim C.

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Don't worry about it, it happens all the time

dirtyrhino said:

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Hahahahah - LOLZ - Seriously - get a grip fella. Another example of a half baked argument by an internet numpty.

let's address some of your "points" shall we ?

I couldn't care less WHO looks at the forum..... i'm well aware of who can or can't see what is posted.....do yo think that people againts the sport don't register in other "closed" forums or clubs?
Why even make a blindingly obvious statement such as yours ?

By NOT reporting lanes being trashed they will Not get the chance to recover and be properly maintained, or TRO'd for the required length of time. If a lane or byway is abused by pillocks, then there is every right for the council to close it. Now, if you got totally stuck on a lane, or someone couldn't be rescued or helped in time due to poor maintainence, who would you blame? the idiot who did the damage, or the local authority who didn't maintain it ?

The age of "break it, someone else will fix it" is long gone - I think it's time you, and a select few realized this, and started working WITH byways officers.

I'd assume your someone who is happy to let things lie as long as it doesn't affect you, but complains the second something happens that is detrimental to your way of life ?

Are you going to go and have a pop at GLASS members, too ?


As for the "toffs" comment - congratulations - you just made yourself look like an utter plank !

A Biased, uninformed, uneducated comment on a topic you clearly have a jaded view upon..... where have we seen this before ?

And BTW...... they were chasing a pair of baited Quadbikes ..... Shame on them... SHAME !

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Lets clear a few things up,

The people who are against our sport dont care if we drive through the countryside carefully or not, they dont want us to drive there altogether.
We all get tarred with the same brush because of a few select prize pricks like it or not.

Even if a lane were to shut due to it being damaged you would still get the same idiots that trashed it driving down it meaning that the lane will never recover properly or meaning it has to stay shut leaving the responsible 4x4 users with one less lane to use & the pricks with a nice rutted muddy lane to use to themselves. Theres no justice in that.

Now, the question "if you got totally stuck on a lane, or someone couldn't be rescued or helped in time due to poor maintainence, who would you blame? seems a bit of daft one. Its like me complaining about the RAC not being able to reach me half way down stanage edge if my landy breaks because the local council have left some massive boulders in the path, the same would go for the emergency services. The only thing you could blame is nature.

I do strongly agree with Paul D & Tim C on the fact that we should all do our bit to help maintain the lanes, its more ammunition for us & less for the bobblehats.

Dirty Rhino, if you had a look at how many posts ive made you'd see that im far from an "internet numpty" or even a plan old numpty. Also i dont see how i made myself look a plank by associating fox hunting with toffs, most would make the same assumption & if you think for one second that those quads were all those hounds were chasing all day then your mistaken. Most of the nation share my views on fox hunting thats why it was banned you mug.

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Dirty Rhino, if you had a look at how many posts ive made you'd see that im far from an "internet numpty" or even a plan old numpty.

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9?Is that numptyish or not then?

JamesB said:

If a fox was killed on the road that would be an ACCIDENT Not if it were me that hit it! he he... in 99.9% of cases where as when a fox are killed in a hunt they are usually ripped to bits by the hounds ON PURPOSE. After being shot by the terrierman, who will have bolted it by use of one non-hard terrier, as dictated by the Hunting Act :doh:

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Dirty Rhino, if you had a look at how many posts ive made you'd see that im far from an "internet numpty"

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What, 9 posts ?

Anyway, i'm digging this up due to the fact that the river crossing that was torn up in the pics did, in fact, pop it's lower bank this weekend. Helped along a little more, i may add, by two or three people driving up and down the banks while I was there.... it was a right state after they left.

Also the Fijord further down the lane was REALLY badly flooded. A few prats got stuck there due to mis-reading the underlying current and not realizing the obvious depth of water.

Spoke to the ROW officer for the area again today, he was already looking into it apparently.

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What, 9 posts ?

Anyway, i'm digging this up due to the fact that the river crossing that was torn up in the pics did, in fact, pop it's lower bank this weekend. Helped along a little more, i may add, by two or three people driving up and down the banks while I was there.... it was a right state after they left.

Also the Fijord further down the lane was REALLY badly flooded. A few prats got stuck there due to mis-reading the underlying current and not realizing the obvious depth of water.

Spoke to the ROW officer for the area again today, he was already looking into it apparently.

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I was there 2-3 weeks ago in my IIa Lightweight. It was busy. I saw a disco exiting the river up the bank. I stopped and spoke to him about it. told him it wasnt a ROW, he said everyone does it, i said dont make it right. told him the 5-0 would sieze his motor if they caught him. said he didnt care, its only a disco, cost him £50 (true, disco drivers are proper pikey ). what a *unt. he didnt argue with me luckily, but was an arrogant prick non-the less. he had a disco buddy with him and there was a white king cab there which had a water pump failure and got towed by a yellow thing (an abortion) both had clearly been in/out of that river.

as usual, we saw ramblers so tried to distance ourselves quickly.

****ed me off that did :blabla:

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Yes - this lot. Too cheap to pay and play, too ignorant to know the difference.

I musta been followed

my mistake, not a king cab, just a regular truck cab.

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I caught the cab. Got the **cker on film. It's all ready and waiting in the ROW inbox for monday >

Hee hee - are yu 3 saying yu all drove that section independantly at the same time and didnt know each other was doing it?

Wots wrong with CB's

JamesB said:

Dirty Rhino, why do you (& others) feel it necessary to publicise the fact that there are ****s out there tearing up our green lanes. We all know it happens but posting a full write up with pics to go with it showing what damage fellow 4x4 users have caused is just taking us one step closer to green laning being banned.
Incase you forgot anyone can look at this forum not just 4x4 fans.
Then you top it all off & inform the byways officer , he'll just shut the whole lane without too much thought! Isnt that what were all trying to avoid??

The fact you call a bunch of toffs that chase defenseless animals "nice peeps" clearly shows that you are a moron by the way.

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Where does that leave people like me then?
Yes there are tossers who dont adhere to Laning policy & we ALL need to work together to ensure our enjoyment stays that way which does mean working with authorities...you are a fool for believing otherwise.
And as a horse rider, hunter & shooter I am well within my rights to tell you to **** off. I am not, have never been & never will be a "TOFF". I do not hunt my horse with a pout on my face or a pipe in my mouth or with a brandy in my pocket & neither does my wife. I am assuming that is what you mean by "TOFF". A lot of the "TOFFS" are actually nice people. Alot of them probably own the land that have lanes cut across them , so it's only YOU that are making laner's look like idiots.
As only now drag hunts are the legal majority, your views are just ignorant & unjustified.
Besides, foxes were & still are mostly classed as vermin on the land they are destroyed on by whatever means.
Am I to stop fishing & shooting now too??
Yes other people & not just 4x4 lovers view this forum but it is not a "cruelty to wildlife forum" , so go & air your dumbfounded views on that elsewhere & stick to topic.
I'll accept an apology for being classed as a "TOFF" & until then you can stick your 9 posts up your **** ignorant arse-COCK.

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Dirty Rhino, why do you (& others) feel it necessary to publicise the fact that there are ****s out there tearing up our green lanes. We all know it happens but posting a full write up with pics to go with it showing what damage fellow 4x4 users have caused is just taking us one step closer to green laning being banned.
Incase you forgot anyone can look at this forum not just 4x4 fans.
Then you top it all off & inform the byways officer , he'll just shut the whole lane without too much thought! Isnt that what were all trying to avoid??

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The ramblers are already against 4x4 drivers. This is because of ignorant and irresponsible groups like those shown in this thread. The only way we are going to change their minds is to show we aren't all the same.

You yourself have already proved that stereotyping is commonplace. You said that fox hunters are toffs and that they rip foxes apart bla bla bla. Due to othe narrowminded people like yopurself, this is what people think of ALL 4x4 drivers. By publicly showing our disgust and actively taking measures, agains irresponsible 4x4 drivers we are hopefully showing that the stereotype doesn't exist.

People like yourself that chioose the blinkered approach are actually helping the irresponsible ones. Instead of moaning about the guys on here who are acting responsibly, why not do like Griff did and speak to the irresponsible peeps an tell em that they are fecking things up.

You could even do as widget and the others have done and take picies as evidence and then hand them over to the authorities to use in the handing out of section 59's and prosecutions.

Now get off your high horse and go complain to the irresponsible offroaders and not the legitimate and considerate ones.

ratty said:

Now get off your high horse and go complain to the irresponsible offroaders and not the legitimate and considerate ones.

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The Mad Hat Man said:

Hee hee - are yu 3 saying yu all drove that section independantly at the same time and didnt know each other was doing it? Wots wrong with CB's

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LOLZ - we need a LandyZone Channel

foss said:

:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi

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I thought that might fox him. Now he'll be on the hunt for more ammo.:doh:

The Mad Hat Man said:

Hee hee - are yu 3 saying yu all drove that section independantly at the same time and didnt know each other was doing it?

Wots wrong with CB's

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na, me and widg. drove the lane 2-3 weeks back as my Lightweights maiden voyage and then some Sunday lunch in the pub.

I think DR drove it a bit before and a bit after us

If you see a IIa lightweight on the Fosse its likely to be mine. not many left on the road now, about 200 I think.

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