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What a brilliant reference. Thanks for that link. Although we should always be cautious about accepting Gov data at face value, it has removed some of my uncertainty about using E10. Cheers.
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I will if I keep the modification. This is an engineering experiment and I have asked the garage to put all four bags in a box because they're relatively new and leave everything else in situ, just in case. I like options that can be reversed and this is one of them.
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Au contraire. I am not 'dead set' against EAS, I'm responding to my evidence of five EAS failures in 3-1/2 yrs and let's not forget, every failure costs £££££ if you don't have the time and/or facility to solve the problem yourself and even if you do, that is time I would rather spend doing something else. It's clear we're never going to agree about EAS because we occupy two very different philosophical positions. You appear to enjoy the challenge of maintaining a complicated suspension system whereas, I don't. And that appears to be core of our exchange. My camp consists of spring & damper x 4. Your camp is an assembly of air bags x4, height potentiometers x 4, wiring x4, a digital voltmeter, ADC, DAC embedded in a micro processor plus software to drive the system with error codes, diagnostic tools etc x1, pneumatic pump x1, control valves x4, pneumatic block x 1, air pipes x4, clips (many), O rings (lots), relays (lots). I've made my point, which is why I firmly believe in KISS. (Keep It Simple Stupid). No offence intended by my last remark. It's just an acronym. Cheers.
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I would invest in the Nanocom for the rest of the car
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Thanks for this advice. I'll investigate after I get the car back at the end of next week. Cheers.I would invest in the Nanocom for the rest of the car
I won't use it.
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You won't use this Gov web site or E10 ??.
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why not? i used it long term, never had an issue
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I won't use it either 
In fact, we don't use it in our mowers or other small engines like the kids bikes
In fact, we don't use it in our mowers or other small engines like the kids bikes
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yes its more of an issue in smaller engines and anything not used oftenI won't use it either
In fact, we don't use it in our mowers or other small engines like the kids bikes
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To E10 or not to E10, that is the question. So for a thickie like me, why is E10 bad for small engines but OK for big ones ??. Surely all petrol engines are fuel equal or are some engines more equal than others ??.
I use V power even, in the garden equipment.
Then your system was never put right in the first place.
I had a dodgey HT sensor and a leaky bag but maanaged to bodge it and fitted an emegency inflation kit, till parts arrived (I worked overseas at the time)
Sorted that and the bags, Valve block+compressor in a Paddock field (we were doing a house reno and living in a caravan)
Never had any more issues (with that P38).
Never had any issues with our low milage P38, but its getting to the point its going to need something due to age.
The L322 has had a compressor and 4 bags.
Yes we have had to drive on bump stops but have never done any other damage.
As I said earlier, it is not that difficult to work on or fix once understood, which should also be looked at as normal maintainance.
You seem to blame everything on the EAS, your wrong.
You seem to be in the "I really should own a different car" catargory. You want springs by a Defender ours is great in the right places.
If you were realy worried you wouldnt drive a car with the possibility of slipped liners, cos that really would give you a problem. It was the only time we have had to take the embarassing tow truck ride. but it lived again as we wanted to keep the car.
If you want to fit springs fit them, but dont blame all your issues on the EAS to try and justify it.
I am saying no more
.J
Edit: I am going to say more
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We use it on the small engines to maintain as much power as possible. The ethanol content isn't good for standing fuel systems either, as kermistormer says.
The kids bikes are carburetor engines so there is no spark timing adjustment unlike bigger engines that can adjust to changes in fuel and emissions.
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I am not trying to blame EAS for all the problems with my P38, just the ones caused by EAS failure and there have been more than I would have expected. All cars have problems but, they only become painful when they become unmanageable by way of cost or any other reason. My experience has shown me EAS is a recurring and unmanageable problem and it should be removed. For example, my Jag XJR was purchased knowing it could have a Nikasil problem but, two facts convinced me to buy it. 1) I had it pressure tested before purchase and 2) the UK stopped selling high sulphur petrol a few years before purchasing the car. Ipso facto: No sulphur - No Nikasil failure and I ran that car to 125K miles before it burst a gasket. I'm very happy that EAS failure is no more than an inconvenience for some but, it's a recurring economic headache for me because the car is unusable when it breaks and it costs me serious time and money getting it fixed. I like my P38 but, my surname is not Rockefeller and putting mpg aside, I have to find a cost effective way to own this car without it financial destroying me.
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I run all my small engine on E10 from my generator to my chain saw, never had a problem. The generator can stand for months these days but still start on the button.
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The EAS is very simple and with diagnostics in the car, most times a fault can be cleared in minutes to get you on your way. It's very cheap to fix but only if you DIY and as Marjon said, if properly overhauled, it rarely fails. Few garages know anything about the EAS or the P38 in general.
Good luck with your springs, a mate of mine has a long wheelbase Defender, similar axles and chassis arrangement to the P38 but on springs, the ride is pretty awful but each to their own.
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I'll let everyone know after suspension surgery next week. I owned a Disco 2 immediately before the P38, so it'll be interesting to compare the experience. The Disco 2 was too slow and I came to really dislike the rear door. The double rear hatches on the P38 are much more user friendly but, the bloke who purchased my Disco 2 preferred it to the P38. Horses for courses again.
You seem to be. Exhaust breaking, diff pan hole
Nikasil coated liners is totally different to LR V8 issue with slipped liners
Nors mine but we have/manage 2 with EAS (1 with springs) JLR cars.
Fix it properly
.J
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Everyone has their preferences. I dislike the split rear tailgate, it makes reaching to the back of the boot a real stretch plus the short upper section does nothing to keep the rain off. Much preferred the one piece tailgate on my Volvo.I'll let everyone know after suspension surgery next week. I owned a Disco 2 immediately before the P38, so it'll be interesting to compare the experience. The Disco 2 was too slow and I came to really dislike the rear door. The double rear hatches on the P38 are much more user friendly but, the bloke who purchased my Disco 2 preferred it to the P38. Horses for courses again.
