www.car-maintenance.org

"Darren" wrote
> A militant usenetter would have been someone who upheld the basic
> fundamentals of usenet, not jumped on someone for posting a link to their
> own non-commercial site, dealing with the same subject matter of the
> newsgroup in question, which by all definitions of spam posted anywhere on
> the internet apart from, it seems, uk.rec groups isnt spam.

Yeah, but whether it is spam or not do you still think it was a good idea?

Douglas

SteveH wrote:

>
> He wouldn't know. His posting history amounts to a handful of posts 18
> months ago, plus this spam.

again, that hasnt always been my email address. how are things at number 12?

Darren <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Yes, and that link proves what?
> >
> > You're obviously new to Usenet, so I suggest you **** off back to where
> > you came from taking your ****ty 'bulletin board' with you.
> >
> > I've been around on Usenet long enough to know spam when I see it.
>
> When usenet first started I remember getting a bit disappointed with how
> much it was going downhill, been away from it so long I had forgotten
> why I didnt use it anymore. Thanks for reminding me.

Eh? - Do you know _anything_ about Usenet - if you did you wouldn't use
such a ****witted expression as 'when usenet first started'.
>
> The link proves what is and what isnt spamming, your own personal
> opinion in this case means nothing I'm afraid.

All that link proves is one site's definition of spam.

In reality, Spam is any unwanted posting advertising an inappropriate
product / service / site.

Advertising a Bulletin Board (and a **** one at that) on a Usenet group
could well be considered inappropriate, and therefore spam.

Cross posting to several groups is most definitely spam. I'm actually
surprised it got past the German server's spam filters - but they're not
what they used to be.

> I would say that I'm sure I've been around usenet longer than you but I
> find cock competitions a little vulgar and also, how the hell would I
> know how long you've been using it?

It's funny, isn't it, you've just popped up from nowhere advertising
your own site. No posting history to any of the groups I subscribe to,
but yet you saw fit to spam the groups with your website.

> I didn't realise you are the administrator of the uk.rec. groups, now I
> know that I'll comply with everything you say because you obviously have
> more right to post here than I do.

No-one is an admistrator, but some people posting to Usenet feel that
it's worth upholding the basic principles of the groups they subscribe
to.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Darren <[email protected]> wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
>
> >
> > He wouldn't know. His posting history amounts to a handful of posts 18
> > months ago, plus this spam.
>
> again, that hasnt always been my email address. how are things at number 12?

Oh look, you can look up my address from my domain name. How clever.

Am I supposed to be scared or impressed?

Shame it's 5 years out of date.

I was miles ahead of you in this respect, but I know where to draw the
line when digging up personal info. on people, and wouldn't even dream
of posting stuff like that on usenet.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Darren wrote:
> Chet wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ooh i'm glad you had a good look around then!
>>
>
> i must admit, i only had a little look around. when i have more time
> and
> a renault again i may have more of a look. but i'm certainly not upset
> with you for bringing to my attention.
>

Fair few mods in there, biggest pain in the arse was the attachment mod. I
was lookin around yours and seen PaulRoBo (or whatever) is there with a cav,
i knew him when he had a clio with a gtt lump in LOL

>>
>> I would but its so hard to click 'next' a couple of times with the
>> trushkin theme
>>
>
> phpbb 2.2 should fix those problems when its released.
>

Hey i'm only just gone to 2.0.10

>>
>>
>> By 'sites' i assume you mean site?
>>
>
> doh! you caught me out. i didnt actually click all of the links.
> perhaps thats why people are getting upset, they think that they have
> to click
> every link in a post otherwise the message turns into a virus?

Nahahaa

--
Chet
http://www.retro-renault.com
1991 HF Integrale 16v - Gettin there!
1993 Renault 19 16v - Subtle extras like a T3
1998 Audi A4 - I don't know why, but i did.

Douglas Payne wrote:

>
> Yeah, but whether it is spam or not do you still think it was a good idea?
>
> Douglas
>
>

I concede that now I don't believe it was a good idea. I misjudged the
level of trolling.

Darren <[email protected]> wrote:

> Douglas Payne wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah, but whether it is spam or not do you still think it was a good idea?
> >
> > Douglas
> >
> >
>
> I concede that now I don't believe it was a good idea. I misjudged the
> level of trolling.

Which can be easily translated:

'I didn't read any of the groups I cross posted my spam to'
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

SteveH wrote:

>
> Oh look, you can look up my address from my domain name. How clever.
>

its not particularly difficult to find my email address from the domain
and search google groups for previous posts is it? you also have 'a'
address from that which you would have had to do before even searching
google groups.

> Am I supposed to be scared or impressed?

neither.

>
> I was miles ahead of you in this respect,

whoopee doo.

but I know where to draw the
> line when digging up personal info. on people, and wouldn't even dream
> of posting stuff like that on usenet.

you did it first. sorry i posted your house number. everyone on usenet
is now going to go round to every number 12 in the country to find you.

Chet <[email protected]> wrote:

> We don't get spam on www.retro-renault.com
>
> We have some useful tech articles on www.retro-renault.com
>
> You can find them at http://www.retro-renault.com/forum/index.php?c=4
>
> www.1916v.info
>
> www.renaultsportsclub.com
>
> www.renault-turbo.com
>
>
>
> I ****in love these spam threads
>
>

Heh.... see, this is the thing. It would be tolerated for you to post a
link to one of your crapfrenchcar.com sites as you're a regular poster
to the group. Someone who appears from no-where posting links to their
own site is just a spamming ****.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Chet wrote:


> Fair few mods in there, biggest pain in the arse was the attachment mod.

sorry didnt log-in to see them. didnt find the attachment mod that
difficult myself but as everything is written for subsilver theres no
messing with the tpl's

> I
> was lookin around yours and seen PaulRoBo (or whatever) is there with a cav,
> i knew him when he had a clio with a gtt lump in LOL
>

At least he's gone on to better things

"Darren" wrote
>
>>
>> Yeah, but whether it is spam or not do you still think it was a good
>> idea?
>
> I concede that now I don't believe it was a good idea.

That's good enough for me. Hopefully I shall have no cause to say anything
more on the matter.

> I misjudged the level of trolling.

Trolling. Hmm, I believe that is a subjective term, without a proper
definition...

Douglas

SteveH wrote:

>>Darren <[email protected]> wrote:

>>I concede that now I don't believe it was a good idea. I misjudged the
>>level of trolling.
>
>
> Which can be easily translated:
>
> 'I didn't read any of the groups I cross posted my spam to'

I thought that was already known?

"Darren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi, please accept my apologies if you aren't interested in this.
>
> We have a fairly new website aiming at being a complete online
resource for
> car maintenance in the UK.
>
> If you are interested in cars then at least it may be worth you having
a
> look, if not then thanks for reading anyway.

I have yet to see a spamvertised site which is worth looking at, yours
is no exception.

"Darren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Guy King wrote:
>
> > The message <[email protected]>
> > from ":::Jerry::::" <[email protected]> contains these words:
> >
> >
> >>And then Spammed it across Usenet....
> >
> >
> > P'raps we ought to visit his BB and spam our newsgroups all over it.
> >
> Thats one of the advantages of a BB over usenet, the ability to
> moderate. REAL spam wouldnt last very long on there.
>

Other than a DoS attack on the BB.....

"Darren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
>
> Again, I don't consider a post relating to the subject matter of the
> group spam.

I suggest you take a look at your AUP then...

Now kindly do as you were asked, PO.

Chet wrote:


>
>
> Its amazing what a theme can do for phpBB, have a look at
> www.retro-renault.com/forum
>

i disagree, i think subsilver is better than the trushkin theme. Also it
makes it more difficult to install mods which is obviously what the
webmaster of that site found out shown by the fact there arent any.

Oh and theres a bit of a security flaw with 2.0.6, you may want to
update to 2.0.10

>
> We don't get spam on www.retro-renault.com
>
> We have some useful tech articles on www.retro-renault.com
>
> You can find them at http://www.retro-renault.com/forum/index.php?c=4
>
> www.1916v.info
>
> www.renaultsportsclub.com
>
> www.renault-turbo.com
>

Interesting sites, thanks for bringing them to my attention.

"Darren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Douglas Payne wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Thats nice, I'm off to find a ****ing dictionary.
>>
> I dont get all the offensive posting, whats happened to net-iquette?
>>
>>
>> All very well, however SteveH's site isn't punted to militant usenetters
>> as a developing resource for anything. I doubt anyone has ever said it
>> was anything other than Pathetic (c:
>>
>> Douglas
> Does being a militant usenetter mean you just swear a lot and try and be
> as offensive as possible? It never used to be

Actually its a term I thought I made up on the spot, but thats generally
what it means. The self regulating nature of the system means that swearing
a lot and trying to be as offensive as possible stops people doing silly
things so much.

Lets use a bad car related analogy as these all seem to be car related
groups. Say, if you were a cyclist <spit> and I was in my car and I saw you
cycle up beside me at some traffic lights, ride through a red light, turn
right where there is a sign specifically stating such an action is
prohibited then mount the pavement at the other side of the road jauntily
and carry on your merry way I'd swear a lot at you and generally try to be
as unpleasant as possible, probably in the vain hope that you'd think twice
before pulling such an unbelieveably stupid manouvre again.

I'm not saying thats the morally right thing to do, but I'd probably still
do it, even if it happened only yesterday. (c:

Anyway, what did militant usenetter used to mean?

Douglas

"Darren" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> I'm having difficulty trying to understand why you keep disagreeing with
> me

There are a number of very aggressive posters on the net... issue a heavily
cross posted post and you will inevitably get replies from some of them.

The best policy seems to be to ignore rude replies.

In other words " please don't feed the trolls ".

Being a coward, I am now going to run away, ( by adding this thread to my
kill file. )

Goodbye
--
Jonathan

Davrian 8, BMW M3
Remove AT to reply

Darren wrote:
> Chet wrote:
>
>
>> Fair few mods in there, biggest pain in the arse was the attachment
>> mod.
>
> sorry didnt log-in to see them. didnt find the attachment mod that
> difficult myself but as everything is written for subsilver theres no
> messing with the tpl's
>

Well havin to that with no prior experience was a little dodgy. Made a bit
of a balls up with the upgrade last nite and blitzed some of the mods,
should be fun tonight!

>> I
>> was lookin around yours and seen PaulRoBo (or whatever) is there
>> with a cav, i knew him when he had a clio with a gtt lump in LOL
>>
>
> At least he's gone on to better things

Debatable



--
Chet
http://www.retro-renault.com
1991 HF Integrale 16v - Gettin there!
1993 Renault 19 16v - Subtle extras like a T3
1998 Audi A4 - I don't know why, but i did.

SteveH wrote:


> Eh? - Do you know _anything_ about Usenet - if you did you wouldn't use
> such a ****witted expression as 'when usenet first started'.
>

i believe i have a fairly comprehensive knowledge about many things
internet related, usenet included.

>
> All that link proves is one site's definition of spam.

which is the general accepted definition.

>
> In my opinion, Spam is any unwanted posting advertising an inappropriate
> product / service / site.

you made a mistake, i corrected it for you.

>
> Advertising a Bulletin Board (and a **** one at that) on a Usenet group
> could well be considered inappropriate, and therefore spam.

by yourself.

>
> Cross posting to several groups is most definitely spam. I'm actually
> surprised it got past the German server's spam filters - but they're not
> what they used to be.
>

i'm not. must know more than you about usenet huh?

>
>
> It's funny, isn't it, you've just popped up from nowhere advertising
> your own site. No posting history to any of the groups I subscribe to,
> but yet you saw fit to spam the groups with your website.
>

hence my earlier comment about not using usenet for a while. i havent
always used this posting name and IP you know.


>
> No-one is an admistrator, but I feel that
> it's worth upholding the basic principles of the groups they subscribe
> to.

again corrected for you, no need to thank me.