Disco 2 Won’t bloody start!!

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Well I’ve admitted defeat this time and taken it to the garage. Ran low on time and patience!
I’ve told the lad there that if he can fix it he can give me £2k for it and call it quits so we’ll see 😎
 
Update!
Car is still in the garage - they have no idea.

So looking like it’s going to have to go up for sale a a project as scrap value is £250 which just seems offensive!!
 
I feel sorry for you. 😢

This kind of intermittent electrical issues are the worst nightmare and unfortunately there is no cheap way around it unless you have skills with electrical troubleshooting at a proffesinal level and know exactly how the D2 works. I'm not gonna read the whole thread again but iirc both fuseboxes were ruled out and if the earths were also checked there are only two steps left:
1. replace the engine harness cos that's quite easy and very suspect
... if still the same
2. replace the main fascia harness... that's a hard one

cos seems that the interruption or short circuit is somewhere in one of these
 
I feel sorry for you. 😢

This kind of intermittent electrical issues are the worst nightmare and unfortunately there is no cheap way around it unless you have skills with electrical troubleshooting at a proffesinal level and know exactly how the D2 works. I'm not gonna read the whole thread again but iirc both fuseboxes were ruled out and if the earths were also checked there are only two steps left:
1. replace the engine harness cos that's quite easy and very suspect
... if still the same
2. replace the main fascia harness... that's a hard one

cos seems that the interruption or short circuit is somewhere in one of these
thanks @sierrafery and I think I might have a crack at the engine harness as a last resort when/if it comes back from the garage. The fascia harness is a bit beyond me so that really will signal the end!
 
thanks @sierrafery and I think I might have a crack at the engine harness as a last resort when/if it comes back from the garage. The fascia harness is a bit beyond me so that really will signal the end!

If I were you at this stage, I would unplug everything from the engine harness except for those components needed to give you a baseline configuration, just enough to turn the engine. Off the top of my head, this would include the ECU, the starter motor + solenoid and of course the battery. I would also remove the cooling fan and the auxiliary belt to reduce the cranking load. Attempt to start the engine while gradually connecting components to the harness (individually or combined) and see if you manage to recreate the behaviour seen in the video clip you uploaded a while ago. It is up to you which components to test and in what order but I would start by adding the CKP and the injector harness. I would also disable certain non essential items such as the glow plugs by removing the appropriate relays and / or fuses. With some luck and an overdose of patience, you will manage to home in on the root cause of this baffling problem. Best of luck.
 
Cheers for mentioning the video, i missed that!
The battery is goosed,
The nanocom doesn't update very quick but i saw 9v.. in reality it probably dropped much lower. Low enough for the ecu to die and the solenoid to disengage.

With ignition on, turn everything on for 5 mins.. headlights, heated screen, heater blower, radio etc.. Keep an eye on the voltage. You'll need to fully charge the battery afterwards
If it's not the battery then you're either got a bad connection to the battery or the starter motor, or the starter itself is shorting out and taking too much power
 
Cheers for mentioning the video, i missed that!
The battery is goosed,
The nanocom doesn't update very quick but i saw 9v.. in reality it probably dropped much lower. Low enough for the ecu to die and the solenoid to disengage.

With ignition on, turn everything on for 5 mins.. headlights, heated screen, heater blower, radio etc.. Keep an eye on the voltage. You'll need to fully charge the battery afterwards
If it's not the battery then you're either got a bad connection to the battery or the starter motor, or the starter itself is shorting out and taking too much power
In post #1 he said the batt was only about a year old.
He could try driving around with a spare, charged up batt and a pair of jump leads. If you are right, whenever it happens again, he could use the above to apply good voltage. If it then starts he may well have a duff batt.
Most motorbits shops will test a batt for no or little money.
 
You've done the voltage check on cranking at the battery. Try doing the same thing at the starter and see if you get a much bigger voltage drop. The going dark tends to indicate a big voltage drop which means high resistance somewhere. Could be a bad crimp on a battery cable or even a fracture inside the insulation somewhere.
We often see this on marine engines. I've seen battery cables rotted away inside the insulation.
 
Guys, IMO the best troubleshooting method for this issue was already revealed here https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/won’t-bloody-start.389329/page-3#post-5624239 ... from what i understood only the engine bay fusebox was ruled out untill now, so it seems that the ignition switch remains suspect so does the interior fusebox... untill these are not ruled out 100% all other discussions are futile ...believe me or not
 
Guys, IMO the best troubleshooting method for this issue was already revealed here https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/won’t-bloody-start.389329/page-3#post-5624239 ... from what i understood only the engine bay fusebox was ruled out untill now, so it seems that the ignition switch remains suspect so does the interior fusebox... untill these are not ruled out 100% all other discussions are futile ...believe me or not
Dodgy ignition switch wont drop the measured voltage down to 9v though.. at least not without releasing it's magic smoke
 
Dodgy ignition switch wont drop the measured voltage down to 9v though.. at least not without releasing it's magic smoke
It was a video in this thread where the whole dash went black and all the electrics seemed to be out for good after a cranking attempt which failled as well so i doubt that there was 9V present then cos at 9V the starter would still spin well just that the engine would not start without any other symptom ;)
 
So. Final update as the issue appears to have been resolved. After being in the garage for nearly 3 months it turned out to be a dirty ignition cable - which was cleaned and it’s been behaving itself for 2 weeks now!!
Sodding thing - straight through the mot too so looks like it’ll live on a bit longer yet

At least he only charged me £25 for effectively storing it for 3 months and giving it a bit of a clean! 🙄

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and things to check

Si
 
What bit was dirty ?
According to the mechanic the connector from the ignition itself - apparently it looked like it had been “played with” in the past (wasn’t me!).
I’ll be honest I didn’t dig into it any more than that as I was just happy to get it working and not get charged a lot for it, and he was swamped with work - next time I go in I’ll ask in more detail
 
According to the mechanic the connector from the ignition itself - apparently it looked like it had been “played with” in the past (wasn’t me!).
I’ll be honest I didn’t dig into it any more than that as I was just happy to get it working and not get charged a lot for it, and he was swamped with work - next time I go in I’ll ask in more detail
Hmmm!
(Post #31) ;)
But buried in among all the other stuff people, including me, had been suggesting.

Very glad you got it sorted!!!:vb-banana::vb-banana::vb-banana:
 
Hmmm!
(Post #31) ;)
But buried in among all the other stuff people, including me, had been suggesting.

Very glad you got it sorted!!!:vb-banana::vb-banana::vb-banana:
Morning all!

Hopefully final update to this saga as the “issue” started to appear again last week.
I managed to start it by wiggling the brown conector in the fuse box (under steering wheel) while at intention pos 3/crank and replaced the whole lead (from back of ignition barrel to fuse board) and it’s working like a charm now

I think it was dodgy wiring in the brown connector as it was the movement of this that allowed it to start before being replaced and I did try to clean it up (note to self - remove bet lead from battery before putting wire wool across contacts in fuse box unless trying to start a fire 🔥) but managed to find a decent/used lead and took the “easy” option

Thanks all for the help and suggestions and hope this helps someone else in the future
 
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