Wipers not working, but washers are

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 12:20

Another day another joy.

Todays issue - wipers not working, but washers are.

I first thought they were just stuck as it was -3*C outside this morning, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

My plan is to look at the following:

Fuses
Relay
Attempt to run power directly to motor

Before I stick my overalls on, as ever, any points in other directions much appreciated.

(Defender 90 1991 200 TDI)

miktdish · Monday at 12:33

The motor lives under the cover by the passenger door.
To get that off there are a few screws top and bottom and one hidden behind the oval badge on the jesus handle.

Use a volt meter to check for a voltage.
Quoite often the issue is that the motor bushes have worn.
First indication is that fast and slow speed doesn't make any difference.

Mine failed (yellow is very worn) and I changed the motor only to find out you can get new bushes (RTC198)

saxavordian · Monday at 12:35

Does it have the same problem pressing down for single use. As you mentioned fuse and relay worth looking.

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 12:40

saxavordian said:
Does it have the same problem pressing down for single use. As you mentioned fuse and relay worth looking.

Yes. No action from the wipers regardless of how I press the stalk.

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 12:41

miktdish said:
The motor lives under the cover by the passenger door.
To get that off there are a few screws top and bottom and one hidden behind the oval badge on the jesus handle.

Use a volt meter to check for a voltage.
Quoite often the issue is that the motor bushes have worn.
First indication is that fast and slow speed doesn't make any difference.

Mine failed (yellow is very worn) and I changed the motor only to find out you can get new bushes (RTC198)

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Amazing as always miktdish thanks!

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 16:17

I’ll just go check the fuses and the relay.

Oh, what’s this bloody rats nest? Half of it isn’t in the Haynes manual

Anaconda · Monday at 16:28

Good luck with that wiring.
It looks rather random on that added fuse box, do you know what any of that is for?

Hicap phill · Monday at 18:13

Ooo the glass fuses… make sure the contacts are clean. Even though the fuse looks good get an electrical meter & check both side of the fuse while it’s in place.

Glass fuse x2strips standard
Little block next to them is an extra/aux

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 18:44

Hicap phill said:
Ooo the glass fuses… make sure the contacts are clean. Even though the fuse looks good get an electrical meter & check both side of the fuse while it’s in place.

Glass fuse x2strips standard
Little block next to them is an extra/aux

Any tips on how to identify what this additional fuse set is for? My assumption is “take one out and see what stops working”

Are there usual things people would wire into them?

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 18:45

Anaconda said:
Good luck with that wiring.
It looks rather random on that added fuse box, do you know what any of that is for?

No idea (yet)

Hicap phill · Monday at 19:00

s8ndst0rm said:
Any tips on how to identify what this additional fuse set is for? My assumption is “take one out and see what stops working”

Are there usual things people would wire into them?

Spot lights
Light bars
Radio
If you have some of these pull the fuses and see.

What other extras are there?

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 19:34

Wiper update - took the connector off the motor. Got caught for time so put it back on. Now they’re working

This thing baffles me sometimes.

tottot · Monday at 19:40

Those blue "scotch block" connectors are awful things, little contact area that soon corrodes.

Hicap phill · Monday at 19:40

Connections go green/corrode. Clean them up & all will be good.

Anaconda · Monday at 20:18

Hicap phill said:
Connections go green/corrode. Clean them up & all will be good.

My son's tdi has glass fuses, almost all were wrong size when he bought it.
You are right the contacts need cleaning every now and again.

Anaconda · Monday at 20:20

s8ndst0rm said:
Wiper update - took the connector off the motor. Got caught for time so put it back on. Now they’re working This thing baffles me sometimes.

Hopefully then it's just a poor contact on the motor, clean them up.
I think sorting the additional fuse box should be on your to do list.

s8ndst0rm · Monday at 21:55

Anaconda said:
Hopefully then it's just a poor contact on the motor, clean them up.
I think sorting the additional fuse box should be on your to do list.

I'm told it's either the radio, or the reverse light. We shall see.

s8ndst0rm · Tuesday at 17:05

Found this screwed but not wired into the back of the fuse box

Hicap phill · Tuesday at 17:37

Indicator relay.
Should say hela on the front

s8ndst0rm · Thursday at 14:30

Anyone fancy a game of name that wire (or relay)

003 is some rats nest which is wired into both the wiper motor and horn

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