Which Fault reader/Clearer

Peewee14 · Mar 21, 2012

After a pleasant day with Mozz today we had a discussion about the fault mate series,

I have been on their website and noticed there are so many different models, I know its been brought up a few times, but can you recommend which one to go for? the website seems vague to me as what each one does,

Which one would pick for a compromise between value for money and functionality?

Thanks for any help

Pete

Datatek · Mar 21, 2012

If you can run to it, a Nanocom as it does a lot more than read and clear faults, otherwise an FCR, or if you have the cash the ultimate is a Faultmate MSV 2, great bit of kit. All from BBS.

eloteq · Mar 21, 2012

BBS Nanocom Evolution. covers all systems in the P38 and not tied to one vehicle. Whatever P38 version you buy; Gems, EDC, etc, you can upgrade to other p38 models/modules for £49 ish (not sure). I found it great for the money.

I am willing to help local P38 diesel owners if help required with faults.

Check out my picture gallery, I've posted to Pics of my fault codes & test diagnostic.

cheet22 · Mar 21, 2012

Got an fcr, does what it says but pricey for a one car locked tool really

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

eloteq said:
BBS Nanocom Evolution. covers all systems in the P38 and not tied to one vehicle. Whatever P38 version you buy; Gems, EDC, etc, you can upgrade to other p38 models/modules for £49 ish (not sure). I found it great for the money. I am willing to help local P38 diesel owners if help required with faults.

Check out my picture gallery, I've posted to Pics of my fault codes & test diagnostic.

so would you recommend 1 of them over the MSV2?

also noticed your from Walsall, my home town and where i'll be moving back to in November

Datatek · Mar 21, 2012

sas1810 said:
so would you recommend 1 of them over the MSV2?

also noticed your from Walsall, my home town and where i'll be moving back to in November

The Nanocom EV 2 does most of the things that the MSV does but is not vehicle locked. It cannot though as far as I'm aware unlock a locked BECM, nor can you have BECM direct access. For most people the Nanocom will fulfill every need. A multi vehicle MSV is quite expensive and a single vehicle one is a bit limited if you have mate who might need a hand

Peewee14 · Mar 21, 2012

Thanks for the replies, could you give us some idea of the prices you have paid for each system? is the FCR £200? Just trying to find a balance here between price and what it does

Datatek · Mar 21, 2012

Peewee14 said:
Thanks for the replies, could you give us some idea of the prices you have paid for each system? is the FCR £200? Just trying to find a balance here between price and what it does

Look at the BBS site, www.blackbox-solutions.com

Peewee14 · Mar 21, 2012

I suppose I was hoping to get a kind of list going for example

X system does these cars and these faults but costs X
Z system does 1 car and only these faults and costs Z

etc etc

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

Peewee14 said:
Thanks for the replies, could you give us some idea of the prices you have paid for each system? is the FCR £200? Just trying to find a balance here between price and what it does

for the BBS stuff, look here :-https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/

Peewee14 · Mar 21, 2012

Datatek said:
Look at the BBS site, www.blackbox-solutions.com

I have data tek , but thats my problem I can't make head nor tail of it, no prices for each system or a clear idea of what each does, sorry I am a n00b , hence my post , was just hoping someone could give a clear idea of what each one actually did and the cost, to me the BBS website is awful and no prices apart from the fcr, hence the original post

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

Datatek said:
The Nanocom EV 2 does most of the things that the MSV does but is not vehicle locked. It cannot though as far as I'm aware unlock a locked BECM, nor can you have BECM direct access. For most people the Nanocom will fulfill every need. A multi vehicle MSV is quite expensive and a single vehicle one is a bit limited if you have mate who might need a hand

i was thinking more like getting something like the MSV2 for home use and the kicker lites for keeping in the glove box for when out and about. you know how these things just suddenly appear and happen at the least inopportune moments

jamesblake · Mar 21, 2012

I have got and only used Nanocom Evo and would highly recommend.

£400 for multi vehicle usage of same model, i.e. Diesel p38 multiple. with other model optional at £49 per model

Datatek · Mar 21, 2012

sas1810 said:
i was thinking more like getting something like the MSV2 for home use and the kicker lites for keeping in the glove box for when out and about. you know how these things just suddenly appear and happen at the least inopportune moments

If you have an MSV Extreme you don't need a kicker as the MSV will operate stand alone and fit in the glove box, same for the nanocom

Peewee14 · Mar 21, 2012

Datatek said:
If you have an MSV Extreme you don't need a kicker as the MSV will operate stand alone and fit in the glove box, same for the nanocom

data Been on the website , dunno if its me being dumb but i can't actually see the prices for the MSV when I click it????

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

Datatek said:
If you have an MSV Extreme you don't need a kicker as the MSV will operate stand alone and fit in the glove box, same for the nanocom

even better!

Datatek · Mar 21, 2012

Peewee14 said:
I have data tek , but thats my problem I can't make head nor tail of it, no prices for each system or a clear idea of what each does, sorry I am a n00b , hence my post , was just hoping someone could give a clear idea of what each one actually did and the cost, to me the BBS website is awful and no prices apart from the fcr, hence the original post

Look at the Shop, all prices there, but roughly £550 for a single vehicle MSV; £395 for a Nanocom, never considered an FCR, too limited so no idea of the price. It's a while since I looked so I may be out of date.

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

PeeWee, what model you got?

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

Description: P38 Range Rover Single Vehicle kit with NANO Vehicle Server
Price: EUR 497.00 (excl. VAT)
EUR 581.49 (incl. VAT)
Quantity:

This item is a kit, comprising of a Nano Vehicle Server, all other required Hardware and a Single Vehicle (By VIN) software license to completely cover all systems with built in diagnostic capability on any variant of P38 Range Rover (1995 to 2002) to the most complete capability we can provide.

This SV125 Kit includes the following:

HW016 Faultmate MSV-2 NANO Vehicle Server with built in VCI 1
LD032 Serial Connection Lead (Null Modem)
LD027 Black OBDII Lead
MP015 Range Rover (P38) Software Pack

Should any further accessories be required such as a USB to serial converter (as many new PCs do not have serial ports) power supplies, extension leads etc, these can be found in the general accessories section along with a very attractively priced selection of PC hardware, including used Panasonic rugged laptops.

Click here to download a PDF document that lists software modules applicable to this vehicle model range and gives more information on the degree of coverage.

sas1810 · Mar 21, 2012

Code: NCOM05

Description: Nanocom Evolution for GEMS P38
Price: EUR 349.00 (excl. VAT)
EUR 408.33 (incl. VAT)
Quantity:

The Nanocom Evolution is a small stand alone unit with a 3.5 inch full Colour Graphic display. This is overlaid with a finger operable Touch Screen that provides a really simple to navigate menu interface. This package includes the NCOM16 and NCOM17 unlock codes which allows coverage of the Lucas GEMS Engine Management system, Airbag, Wabco ABS/ETC, BECM, Lucas EAS, Valeo HEVAC and Bosch Auto box systems which are all applicable to the GEMS P38. This is a Multi Vehicle unit, meaning it can be used on any vehicle of the same type and is not locked to any VIN and offers probably the best functionality and features for the money than any other Land Rover Diagnostic product, which has earned it an enviable reputation. For further details of the functionality of the covered vehicle systems Click Here for details on the GEMS Engine management (NCOM17) Click Here for details on the rest of the P38 systems listed excluding engine management (NCOM16) Includes The main NANOCOM EVOLUTION unit, NCOM23 Green OBDII cable and a USB cable.

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