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You can only tow a gross weight of 3/4 tonnes so you can't tow an empty trailer on the basis it only weighs half a tonne.
I plan to join my regional 4x4 response group sometime next year, so it may help if I have a better understanding.
as said previously, this towing weight thing is a minefield, and although the local Bib won't know it chapter & verse, the VOSA guys certainly will.
There are now VOSA guys out & about 24hrs a day, mainly on the motorway, and they'll pull anyone that they feel could be breaking one of a number of laws in reference to this.
You've got the problem with those who passed their test after 1997.
Then there's the tow limit of the towing vehicle.
Then there's the maximum that you can tow without the trailer having to have working over-run brakes (750kg if my memory serves me correctly)
Then you got the maximum designed *Train weight* .....This is were people with small recovery vehicles are coming unstuck, they have 1 vehicle on the back of the truck, and are towing another vehicle on a trailer, or a caravan, then then fall outside the *train weight* = kerching!!
It's an absolute minefield! and it's all down to a knee-jerk reaction from when that guy landed his Landy plus Landy on a trailer on the railway line.
As fer as i know ady us oldies can tow 3500 kg on trailer with overrun brakes.youve got to stay under the train weight too.I bleeve we can also drive 7.5tonne rigid trucks but my 26yo daughter cant.I might be wrong sure shifty or paul c will correct if soBeen a interesting thread subject this ,never realized how complicated it is ,but i passed my test in 1982 so therfore anybody like to had what i can tow legally ?
Been a interesting thread subject this ,never realized how complicated it is ,but i passed my test in 1982 so therfore anybody like to had what i can tow legally ?
I am a responder myself with the Yorkshire & Lincolnshire 4x4 Response....and I've passed my test after 1997 without addition trailer test....
4x4 response work do not normally involved with towing any vehicle on a public highway. We generally do recoveries, recover stuck vehicle out of a 'situation'. And once that vehicle is out of such 'situation', we leave them to drive away themselves. If the vehicle has broken down and not drivable, a tow truck or flatbed is called. Hence, 4x4 response mainly only do recoveries and not towing.
Another thing is they ask if you have a towball etc. but mines a bit more complicated that that. For example, I have a towball but you couldn't put trailers on it because it is painted. Can I do the registration over the phone because I think that would be easier?
Insurance just might be an issue, methinksI know this may be a stupid question but can I join before I pass my test? I have off road experience but I haven't passed my test ......
So... you have the tow ball for what exact reason? Cus tow balls make **** recovery points for off-roading unless on the flat... there main purpose is to tow things...
You could also calm down a bit and be patient - wait till next year when you have passed then sign up. We will have more snow and more people getting stuck next year so you will still be able to go and play 'hero'
if towballs make **** recovery points just wondering if towballs with the pin thing are any better or are they just as bad
So long as the towbar its attached to is strong enough, they're much better.
Damn right little tearaways deserv a good slappinHey turbo ,less of the oldies ! im only 46 you know, yep i know about the 7.5 tonne truck bit just wasnt sure of the towing part but iv never had any problems with anything ,think coppers look at me now and i dont register on there radar ,think its more the younger guys they pay attension to.
if towballs make **** recovery points just wondering if towballs with the pin thing are any better or are they just as bad
most simple version ive seen of it is the ball itself is on a 1" thick pin that goes through the body of the hitch wich is shaped like an industrial shackle bolted to the vehicle the other type ive seen is the ball is fixed and the shackle pin is seperate
Yeh fine, if on the flat i use the tow bar as the recovery point, but at angles it could easily slip off the top of the ball, so, if you have a pin you can put the shackle through then it's all good.
(as said assuming the tow ball is attached to something solid)
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