Route planning & best methods

Keith_L · Sunday at 18:26

Hicap phill said:
@jamesDisco TD5

Let’s see a bit of TW in action….
Can you look at Builth wells and give me a general screen shot of lanes/bridal ways in the area. If it’s any good I will join
Thanks for your help

Hicap phill · Sunday at 18:28

jamesDiscoTD5 said:
The Upper Claerwen byway ends at Claerwen, but there's a private link road at the end owned by the Elan Valley Trust that goes through to a UCR. You can email Elan Valley for a permit to drive the link road.

Shown here between the red (Upper Claerwen) and green (open section of UCR).

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Thanks. This looks easy to use

kermit_rr · Sunday at 18:32

There's always the relevant council 'definitive map' but they aren't always up to date

Hicap phill · Sunday at 18:51

kermit_rr said:
There's always the relevant council 'definitive map' but they aren't always up to date

But you need to find the area first,then find the relevant council. Thought I had found the correct area…. Nope about 100miles to far north(that site will be used for other routes later on)

I am making lots of notes as I go.
Thing is I have to do most of this weekends as connections are not good for me during the week to run 2 pads.

Anaconda · Sunday at 18:53

Hicap phill said:
But you need to find the area first,then find the relevant council. Thought I had found the correct area…. Nope about 100miles to far north(that site will be used for other routes later on)

I am making lots of notes as I go.
Thing is I have to do most of this weekends as connections are not good for me during the week to run 2 pads.

Powys above Claerwen.

kermit_rr · Sunday at 18:54

Hicap phill said:
But you need to find the area first,then find the relevant council. Thought I had found the correct area…. Nope about 100miles to far north(that site will be used for other routes later on)

I am making lots of notes as I go.
Thing is I have to do most of this weekends as connections are not good for me during the week to run 2 pads.

If you use streetmap.co.uk it will tell you the exact postcode of wherever you point. Helps to find the right council

Anaconda · Sunday at 18:56

jamesDiscoTD5 said:
The Upper Claerwen byway ends at Claerwen, but there's a private link road at the end owned by the Elan Valley Trust that goes through to a UCR. You can email Elan Valley for a permit to drive the link road.

Shown here between the red (Upper Claerwen) and green (open section of UCR).

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Does the blue lane (tro) form part of Monks Trod or lead to Monks Trod?

Hicap phill · Sunday at 18:59

Anaconda said:
Powys above Claerwen.

Yep been on Powys site. Just linking up areas and councils

kermit_rr · Sunday at 19:01

http://wetroads.co.uk/ is good if you want to see a list of fords in each county

Hicap phill · Sunday at 19:10

Here a problem. Nice lane not showing anything on definitive map.
A bridal path is shown(on definitive map)so it’s the correct council.

Rights of Way Map - Ceredigion County Council

www.ceredigion.gov.uk

I will put in my route for checking.

Anaconda · Sunday at 19:43

Hicap phill said:
Here a problem. Nice lane not showing anything on definitive map.
A bridal path is shown(on definitive map)so it’s the correct council.

Rights of Way Map - Ceredigion County Council

www.ceredigion.gov.uk

I will put in my route for checking.

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Black seems to be byways, not many on there?

Hicap phill · Sunday at 19:48

Anaconda said:
Black seems to be byways, not many on there?

Yep… I just zoom out and scan colours. Second pad runs the os map so I get a general idea where I am. That’s when I spotted the unmarked ROW.
May have to chat with a few Welsh people…

jamesDiscoTD5 · Sunday at 20:03

Anaconda said:
Black seems to be byways, not many on there?

There are a lot of UCRs in the area (including Soar-Y-Mynydd at the southern end of that bridleway) which aren't usually shown on rights of way maps.

Hicap phill · Sunday at 20:06

jamesDiscoTD5 said:
There are a lot of UCRs in the area (including Soar-Y-Mynydd at the southern end of that bridleway) which aren't usually shown on rights of way maps.

Do they show on Tw?
Or if things are not marked do people still put notes up on the route/UCR ?
Thanks all for you ongoing help

jamesDiscoTD5 · Sunday at 21:58

Hicap phill said:
Do they show on Tw?
Or if things are not marked do people still put notes up on the route/UCR ?
Thanks all for you ongoing help

Yeah Trailwise shows UCRs - they're the blue ones on the screenshots.

Freddie17 · Wednesday at 18:00

+ one for trailewise.

I’ve used it for lanes around Kent when planning a couple of days with another forum member.
I agree that Glass is pretty dead in Kent… not even got a rep at moment!

dag019 · 2025-02-21T14:05:11+0000

Anaconda said:
James, what other benefits, apart from mapping, do you get?
Friend was in it a few years back and said it was pretty dead and not worth the money. That's why we have never bothered to join it.

Keith_L said:
@Anaconda - Take a look at these two links which describe what GLASS does and lists some member benefits, other than access to TrailWise of course:

Why The Green Lane Association?

Why Glass?

www.glass-uk.org

Member Discounts Non-Member Teaser

GLASS, Member Discounts

www.glass-uk.org

Freddie17 said:
+ one for trailewise.

I’ve used it for lanes around Kent when planning a couple of days with another forum member.
I agree that Glass is pretty dead in Kent… not even got a rep at moment!

The above form @Anaconda was my experience of glass and trailwise a few years ago so let my membership lapse. Everything on trailwise there seemed to be a good 5-10 years out of date so stopped renewing.

Has this now changed and and people are active on there updating routes and comments etc? I am looking at planning a route around the cotswolds for drive it day and an arcuate and up to date trailwise would certainly make things easier and quicker as a start rather than trawling through the council rights of way maps as a starting point

Hicap phill · 2025-02-21T14:13:26+0000

@dag019

Where in the Cotswold do you want to start/finish?

dag019 · 2025-02-21T21:30:19+0000

Hicap phill said:
@dag019

Where in the Cotswold do you want to start/finish?

I have found an article from a motorcycle magazine with a set of track near bourton on the water. So will have a look at those as are local enough to me to pop down for a couple Of hours. But also happier with further south nothing is set yet. Just in the very beginning stages.

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