Poor starting

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starting can usually be done with a squirt of easy start

but can this cause any long term issues or am I just masking the issue?
 
Datatek said:
Have you checked the fuel temperature sensor in the FIP with diagnostics or the EDC engine temperature sensor for that matter?
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No as don't have access to Diagnostics, is the EDC sensor the green one in the block above the FIP?
 
JohnnyCrash said:
Update:

This weekend I went through and checked everything, each plug is getting the same reading 11.7 volt and they are less than a month old NGK plugs, bench tested they all glow!

Checked all leak off pipes, again these are all reasonably new, I had fitted silicone, but as I have switched back to diesel I changed them for rubber. Checked all along the fuel lines, I did find a small crack in the diesel return pipe at the lift pump end so repaired this.

This morning:
Charged battery, did the plugs twice before cranking just to make sure, spins over sound like it wants to catch but nothing, keep trying and eventually it needs a jump start, few cranks later and fired up, big cloud of smoke :-/ also noticed while driving that when pulling away at a roundabout or kickdown again I get a lot of smoke
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I wonder if the jump start makes it spin faster Johnny a slightly slacking battery and starter might just not be enough!

After all six to spin over rather than the usual 4;)
 
JohnnyCrash said:
No as don't have access to Diagnostics, is the EDC sensor the green one in the block above the FIP?
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The sensor near the FIP is not supposed to be green it should be blue or brown. Blue NSC100820 with aircon. Brown STC2253 without aircon. That is for dash gauge. The ECU temp sensor should be green STC2299 and fitted towards middle of head between injectors three and four. :)
 
wammers said:
The sensor near the FIP is not supposed to be green it should be blue or brown. Blue NSC100820 with aircon. Brown STC2253 without aircon. That is for dash gauge. The ECU temp sensor should be green STC2299 and fitted towards middle of head between injectors three and four. :)
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Thanks, so next question is am I able to test this? hot water measure resistance?
 
JohnnyCrash said:
Thanks, so next question is am I able to test this? hot water measure resistance?
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You could but the sensor are all different. Brown only has one pin, blue and green have two and different sensing values. If the sensor between injectors three and four is not green you need to fit one that is. Likewise the sensor near FIP it needs to be blue or brown depending if you have aircon fitted. They would not be colour coded if they could be interchanged.
 
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wammers said:
You could but the sensor are all different. Brown only has one pin, blue and green have two and different sensing values. If the sensor between injectors three and four is not green you need to fit one that is. Likewise the sensor near FIP it needs to be blue or brown depending if you have aircon fitted. They would not be colour coded if they could be interchanged.
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Sorry for confusion

I have the blue one closest to FIP (have A/C)

green one is closer to injector 3
 
JohnnyCrash said:
Sorry for confusion

I have the blue one closest to FIP (have A/C)

green one is closer to injector 3
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As it should be then. That is one theory out the window. You need diag on it you can guess all next year and not find the problem. You need to look at sensor readings and check them for sense. Fuel flow and modulation could be checked. Either ECU sensor or fuel temp sensor could give you your problem. Maybe your devil fuel has knackered your pump up.
 
wammers said:
The sensor near the FIP is not supposed to be green it should be blue or brown. Blue NSC100820 with aircon. Brown STC2253 without aircon. That is for dash gauge. The ECU temp sensor should be green STC2299 and fitted towards middle of head between injectors three and four. :)
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They are meant to be blue for the gauge but the green one works

Looking at bank Johnny left one gauge middle one ecu

And let me guess no black one to the right but a blanking plug .supposedly air con
 
Grit Valve said:
They are meant to be blue for the gauge but the green one works

Looking at bank Johnny left one gauge middle one ecu

And let me guess no black one to the right but a blanking plug .supposedly air con
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Will have a look later and let you know
 
Grit Valve said:
They are meant to be blue for the gauge but the green one works

Looking at bank Johnny left one gauge middle one ecu

And let me guess no black one to the right but a blanking plug .supposedly air con
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Black one is only fitted to MY 1999 and on for aircon fans on overheat.
 
Grit Valve said:
They are meant to be blue for the gauge but the green one works

Looking at bank Johnny left one gauge middle one ecu

And let me guess no black one to the right but a blanking plug .supposedly air con
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Wonder why they are different part numbers then. Going on that theory the front and back axles should be interchangeable different part numbers but both axles so all is good. :);)
 
Datatek said:
What a good idea, we could have front, rear or all four wheel steering just like a Manitou:rolleyes:
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Yeah it makes you wonder why manufactures have all those part numbers. Maybe they should be all the same, then you fit things where you want to. As long as they sort of work what's the problem? :D:D
 
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