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DanClarke said:
Always leave the machine with the door open when not it use.
We do this all the time to prevent stagnant pongs, and I dread to think what a machine left for months would be like. LOL.
Machin-au-fromage? :)
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We leave the door open but the pong creeps in after a day or so. So does the outdoor hose pipe so I reckon it is something in the water supply causing it.
 
Wimblowdriver said:
We leave the door open but the pong creeps in after a day or so. So does the outdoor hose pipe so I reckon it is something in the water supply causing it.
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Fortunately I do not seem to have that problem. I always leave my washer and dishwasher ajar but I do find that a smell is sometimes discernable from the dishwasher if I leave it unused for a week when on holiday. I assumed that I caused that myself by not ensuring that I had fully cleaned the filter before leaving it.
The hose pipe does not seem to be an offender. :)
 
Hippo said:
Why would one do that?

Edit: did he paint the bus in 3d?
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How come there is a shadow of the bus on the wall but his shadow isn't there?
One has to assume that for some bonkers reason he painted the burnt out bus on the weird concrete block thing then painted the shadow on the wall, then climbed up and sat on it.
Or is my logic wrong there?
 
Hippo said:
Cancel it now or you'll forget.
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I have gone back to it to discover that the new sub doesn't start for a bit.
Would you please be so kind as to tell me which is the best way of signing up cheaply for a simple one, that covers one or two machines? I do already have it on my mobile.
Once I have that info I'll get AVG on and cancel the other one.
TIA
Stan
 
DanClarke said:
Always leave the machine with the door open when not it use.
We do this all the time to prevent stagnant pongs, and I dread to think what a machine left for months would be like. LOL.
Machin-au-fromage? :)
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W is in charge of the washing machine. She only let me near it when she was stuck in bed or on the sofa with her bust ankle. So I have no idea.
She has just insisted that she always leaves it open, with an edge to her voice!
But the thing that holds the detergent drawer and the main pipe off it, which has a u-bend in it. were quite manky. Fortunately it all came out and apart without too much bovva.
The U-bend I think is a snare and a delusion. Cos water sits in it all the time. Above the u-bend drum side it was clean except for a slight limescale greyness, but drawer-housing side was pretty rank.
T'internet says "Clean the drawer and the doorseal" which is all we have ever done. But until now we have never used washing machine cleaner, i.e. the liquid you can shove through it. Nor have we cleaned the drawer-housing. I think we'll be using this stuff from now on!
The machine in France only ever got used during the 5 week summer holiday for years, with extremely soft water. Only started being used normally since 2015, for 6 months a year. Which might account for tjhe lack of problems with it. Plus it is a bit younger.

Do you peeps use dishwasher cleaner too? We don't seem to need it. We have used it but it didn't seam to make any difference. Things were coming out clean and there was no smell anyway.

Every day is a school day.
 
derwendolly said:
Fortunately I do not seem to have that problem. I always leave my washer and dishwasher ajar but I do find that a smell is sometimes discernable from the dishwasher if I leave it unused for a week when on holiday. I assumed that I caused that myself by not ensuring that I had fully cleaned the filter before leaving it.
The hose pipe does not seem to be an offender. :)
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After our issues with the DW in France we now clean our plates and pans of grease far more thoroughly before putting them in the dishwasher. We never use the "rinse" setting. I always soak pans etc, W doesn't always.
 
@Stanleysteamer , most modern dishwashers have a "cleaning" function, we run this once every six months or so and it leaves the dishwasher spotless. The thing to be careful off with dishwashers/washing machines is the black mould that can grow in/on the rubbers and it is a unhealthy to let this take hold. I run the washing machine on a 90deg hot wash once every six months and really sorts out any bacteria that may have decided to nest. + I also clean my overalls at 60degs and this temperature kills most germs/bacteria that could cause poor odour.

Once a year I'll remove the dishwasher and washing machine waste pipes, give them a good soak and scrub in hot soapy water with bleach. We never experience bacterial growth/smelly pipework.

I also use food grade 6% hydrochloric acid for cleaning. It's highly effective but do wear gloves and open windows when using.
 
v8250 said:
@Stanleysteamer , most modern dishwashers have a "cleaning" function, we run this once every six months or so and it leaves the dishwasher spotless. The thing to be careful off with dishwashers/washing machines is the black mould that can grow in/on the rubbers and it is a unhealthy to let this take hold. I run the washing machine on a 90deg hot wash once every six months and really sorts out any bacteria that may have decided to nest. + I also clean my overalls at 60degs and this temperature kills most germs/bacteria that could cause poor odour.

Once a year I'll remove the dishwasher and washing machine waste pipes, give them a good soak and scrub in hot soapy water with bleach. We never experience bacterial growth/smelly pipework.

I also use food grade 6% hydrochloric acid for cleaning. It's highly effective but do wear gloves and open windows when using.
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Neither of our dishwashers has a cleaning function. Hottest setting is 70 degs I believe.
You are right about the black rubbers they were a problem on the one whose heating element is probably fubar as we have to run it on the hot water coming out of the pipe which is governed down to a "safe" temp as in all new build in France, that is still very hot, it washes fine, amazingly. I will deffo fix the element.

Both washing machines get used on the hottest setting and the one in France has a "steam" setting which kills pretty much everything.

So where do you use bleach and where do you use the acid? We use bleach for lots of things, white vinegar for others. don't even know where I'd get 6% HCl, on line?

Ta for the info.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Neither of our dishwashers has a cleaning function. Hottest setting is 70 degs I believe.
You are right about the black rubbers they were a problem on the one whose heating element is probably fubar as we have to run it on the hot water coming out of the pipe which is governed down to a "safe" temp as in all new build in France, that is still very hot, it washes fine, amazingly. I will deffo fix the element.

Both washing machines get used on the hottest setting and the one in France has a "steam" setting which kills pretty much everything.

So where do you use bleach and where do you use the acid? We use bleach for lots of things, white vinegar for others. don't even know where I'd get 6% HCl, on line?

Ta for the info.
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Have a look at brick cleaner, not sure on strength.
I got 20 litres Hydrochloric acid neat a couple of years ago locally was only cheap but cant find it on line anymore.. melted the chrome off my oven shelves o_O o_O :D
 
Stanleysteamer said:
So where do you use bleach and where do you use the acid? We use bleach for lots of things, white vinegar for others. don't even know where I'd get 6% HCl, on line?

Ta for the info.
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Ooops, that meant to be hydrogen peroxide - 6% food grade strength [please don't buy hcl for cleaning!! 🫣 ] Hydrogen peroxide is readily available from Amazon and eBay suppliers. I normally buy job lots of multiple 5ltr containers for ease and bulk buy cost saving.

 
v8250 said:
Ooops, that meant to be hydrogen peroxide - 6% food grade strength [please don't buy hcl for cleaning!! 🫣 ] Hydrogen peroxide is readily available from Amazon and eBay suppliers. I normally buy job lots of multiple 5ltr containers for ease and bulk buy cost saving.

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That WAS a big oops! 🤣
I seem to remember being able to get HCl in drain cleaner but haven't got any for a long time. Also now called Muriatic acid, which doesn't help.
H2O2 makes a lot more sense. But not stuff I buy as I (think) have no use for it. I see that some use it for cleaning, evidently! All I have ever thought about it is for bleaching hair! If it is that good might get some. It'll make a change from bleach, white vinegar, acetone etc.;)
 
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