I would just like to say

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kevstar said:
Yer it wood cause I wiped it that much with the Arnold Schwarzenegger bog paper she bought
its as hard as &$£" & takes no %$£" 🤣🤣
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Tisn't IZAL is it with "Now wash your hands please "! printed on every sheet as it is better as tracing paper than bog paper and about as absorbent!!!!!!!!!!


There's a good reson why soft bog paper is a luxury every prisoner dotes on !!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
kevstar said:
Oh do shutter up no 316 stainless steel hinges tut tut. 🤣 🤣
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Oh dear! The hinges are special frog ones, I'd take a pic or two if it wasn't dark outside. They is special cos of the way they go into the walls etc Stainless would look dead wrong with trad wooden shutters. Cast iron I think. Painted black. You've got me going now.

But once the wall part is mounted in the wall you cannot take em out without very serious surgery to the wall.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Tisn't IZAL is it with "Now wash your hands please "! printed on every sheet as it is better as tracing paper than bog paper and about as absorbent!!!!!!!!!!


There's a good reson why soft bog paper is a luxury every prisoner dotes on !!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
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More like grease proof paper, you cant poke your finger through it which is a positive. 🤣 🤣
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Oh dear! The hinges are special frog ones, I'd take a pic or two if it wasn't dark outside. They is special cos of the way they go into the walls etc Stainless would look dead wrong with trad wooden shutters. Cast iron I think. Painted black. You've got me going now.

But once the wall part is mounted in the wall you cannot take em out without very serious surgery to the wall.
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Yer ive seen that type with spike like inserts into the wall. :)
 
kevstar said:
Yer ive seen that type with spike like inserts into the wall. :)
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Like these.
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Stanleysteamer said:
I can't agree about the staining, worn lots of jeans on leather as have other of our friends and relatives, never stained it, you just have to look after it, if the leather was a problem we'd have got rid of it or put seat covers on it. and this is including 6 grandchildren being in it. But as you say, I suppose darker coloured leather is a bit easier to maintain.
The engine is another issue and not the aesthetics that we are discussing, although I will not disagree with you on that.
As for the "looks dirty through tinted glass" TBH I have never thought about it, but it wouldn't put me off, having a car with tinted glass on the other hand would!
I have had cars with such slightly tinted glass that I didn't notice it until I wound a window half down and noticed the sky was a slightly different colour. But "privacy glass" no thanks.

As I said I am just too old for all this! Which is why the kits I build look like 30s roadsters!
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When eye were looking a hippo's eye liked the cream white-ish seats but looking through the window at them they looked dirty. It surprised me. Cars wivvoot tints still have tinted glass. Normally bronze or green. Only slightly burrit were enough to put me oft. Fink hippo's are green. It were the green that made it look dirty.
 
Hippo said:
When eye were looking a hippo's eye liked the cream white-ish seats but looking through the window at them they looked dirty. It surprised me. Cars wivvoot tints still have tinted glass. Normally bronze or green. Only slightly burrit were enough to put me oft. Fink hippo's are green. It were the green that made it look dirty.
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Mine were on a Dolly Sprint and yes they were a slight green too. It is supposed to be restful for the eyes I think.
AT least that was what I was told when I asked why the back ground to the targets was green on the range. It did help when you had been straining your eyes to take a mo and look at the background.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
I admire but at the same time wonder at how you paint your shutters so often.
Is there a byelaw or something?
Ours have patinated from a bright Gauloise bluey colour to a nice faded version. I won't be touching them for a long while yet, but I do keep and eye on the hinges etc for rust.
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7yrs last painted good quality paint applied correctly will last 6yrs then start to become porous when you have 24 shutters you don't want to be doing them to often if you like old and faded that's fine 😐😐
 
kevstar said:
Did Stirling moss drive one of these.
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Good question!
I don't think so, he joined Mercedes the following year.
In 1953, Mercedes-Benz racing boss Alfred Neubauer had spoken to Moss's manager, Ken Gregory, about the possibility of Moss's joining Mercedes. Having seen him do well in a relatively noncompetitive car, and wanting to see how he would perform in a better one, Neubauer suggested that Moss buy a Maserati for the 1954 season. He bought a Maserati 250F, and although the car's unreliability prevented him from scoring high amounts of points in the 1954 Drivers' Championship, he qualified alongside the Mercedes front runners several times and performed well in the races.[20] He achieved his first Formula One victory when he won the Oulton Park International Gold Cup.[15]
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Moss's first World Championship victory came at the 1955 British Grand Prix, a race he was also the first British driver to win.[24] Leading a 1–2–3–4 finish for Mercedes,.....
 
Stone56 said:
7yrs last painted good quality paint applied correctly will last 6yrs then start to become porous when you have 24 shutters you don't want to be doing them to often if you like old and faded that's fine 😐😐
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So I guess that means you paint a few each year, yes?
Good idea, I must count up how many shutters we have. Just done it, 19. Of which 8 are full length door sized ones. :eek:
Maybe I'd better add this to the never-ending list!

and the flipping paint is SUCH a price!!!
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Good question!
I don't think so, he joined Mercedes the following year.
In 1953, Mercedes-Benz racing boss Alfred Neubauer had spoken to Moss's manager, Ken Gregory, about the possibility of Moss's joining Mercedes. Having seen him do well in a relatively noncompetitive car, and wanting to see how he would perform in a better one, Neubauer suggested that Moss buy a Maserati for the 1954 season. He bought a Maserati 250F, and although the car's unreliability prevented him from scoring high amounts of points in the 1954 Drivers' Championship, he qualified alongside the Mercedes front runners several times and performed well in the races.[20] He achieved his first Formula One victory when he won the Oulton Park International Gold Cup.[15]
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1955​

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Moss's first World Championship victory came at the 1955 British Grand Prix, a race he was also the first British driver to win.[24] Leading a 1–2–3–4 finish for Mercedes,.....
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Found this..........

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/c...the-1954-mercedes-benz-w196r-formula-1-racer/
 
Eye first came across the tdv6 failures on ere. Peeps having had the crank snap. There's an oil pump mod and a few other idea's to make em last longerer. The high ways agency do somefink like 300k miles in them if eye remembers correctly. Tis a pug engine origionally via ford into lr. RR and d3 and d4 used em. 2.7 and 3L. Tis a heavy car at 2.7 ton. All the power comes from the turbo's. The d3 forum has loads of em failed. Since lookering online at a scammer garage eye realised just how many were failing. Its not as bad as 50% but the ocasional owner had two replaced under lr 3 year warranty on the same vehicle. Then yer find oot just how many garages specialise in swopping the engines oot. And how easy it is to get a second hand chassis from a parts stripped one. We tend to bin cars at 10 years when they is still wuking. Lr products tend to continue past this as owners love em. There's quite a following of peeps wanting one. But the tdv6 problems make the rover k series 1.8 wiv its head gasket failures look like a sunday picnic. Tis a shame to damage the vehicles reputation like this. Oil starvation then snap. Lots of theories. The bearing slips and block the oil hole. That's basic metal tinkering to design oot. Pump can split eye fink. At the end of the day its an eggspensive car when new. Still full of eggspensive parts many years laterer. As eye has said many times...














yer betterer oft gerrin a freelander.
 
Hippo said:
Eye first came across the tdv6 failures on ere. Peeps having had the crank snap. There's an oil pump mod and a few other idea's to make em last longerer. The high ways agency do somefink like 300k miles in them if eye remembers correctly. Tis a pug engine origionally via ford into lr. RR and d3 and d4 used em. 2.7 and 3L. Tis a heavy car at 2.7 ton. All the power comes from the turbo's. The d3 forum has loads of em failed. Since lookering online at a scammer garage eye realised just how many were failing. Its not as bad as 50% but the ocasional owner had two replaced under lr 3 year warranty on the same vehicle. Then yer find oot just how many garages specialise in swopping the engines oot. And how easy it is to get a second hand chassis from a parts stripped one. We tend to bin cars at 10 years when they is still wuking. Lr products tend to continue past this as owners love em. There's quite a following of peeps wanting one. But the tdv6 problems make the rover k series 1.8 wiv its head gasket failures look like a sunday picnic. Tis a shame to damage the vehicles reputation like this. Oil starvation then snap. Lots of theories. The bearing slips and block the oil hole. That's basic metal tinkering to design oot. Pump can split eye fink. At the end of the day its an eggspensive car when new. Still full of eggspensive parts many years laterer. As eye has said many times...














yer betterer oft gerrin a freelander.
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This mirrors the little research I did, and then some.
I'll be really interested to see what mods said guru makes to make them bomb or grenade proof!
 
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