I would just like to say

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landowner said:
Not lookin too rosy for the future
Looks like she could demand more than half the house in order to get herself another abode 🤔
Can't understand why she want's to move after livin there 40 years, upset will probably kill her at her age
But then again I do have my suspicions as to what's going on
onwards and upwards 🙂
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First, let me say that I know nothing about this subject but from what I have read about this particular situation it seems to be very strange and very unfair to my understanding.

1. After so many years why has she suddenly decided she wants a divorce? I am sure she will be aware of the value of the property and therefore her legal half share. I can understand that there could be a few reasons why she could expect to claim a higher amount - such as having a child dependant from the marriage who has not yet reached 18 years - having spend an amount of money maintaining ( not 'extending' for her own pleasure ) the whole property for which she can produce receipts. She must have been aware that a new-to-her property to continue her life in is not going to be cheap so, like the other half-share owner she will have to rent a property. She will have a lump sum and probably a state pension together with any money she has accumulated over the years of living either rent-free or possibly at a reduced amount. These savings are her responsibility - we all have to do it or run the risk of asking for Government help, she is aware that this was the only way her 'abandoned' legal husband could find a home when he let her remain in the marital home. My calculations from what we have been told, means the child of the marriage was no youngster when she walked out so was able to 'stand on his own two feet'.

2. If she has the plan to re-marry then surely the new gentleman will have to take over the responsibility of providing a home for his new wife, he should be delighted that 'she' is able to contribute a sizable half-share towards a new home for them both.

3. If she is to remain single then she will be in the same situation as she was when she walked away from the marriage in the first place so why insist on a divorce and then expect to get more than a full half share "'cos that's not enough to buy another property". Like others, she is choosing to downsize and live like they do - a reduction in her life-style. The only reason I can see for her having a larger share is if she has already paid a regular rent to the other 'half-share owner' during her period of self-imposed life as a single person.

Before you all fall asleep I will shut up. I am aware that this situation is none of my business!!!!! I do find it unfair if the way I have understood it is correct.
 
derwendolly said:
First, let me say that I know nothing about this subject but from what I have read about this particular situation it seems to be very strange and very unfair to my understanding.

1. After so many years why has she suddenly decided she wants a divorce? I am sure she will be aware of the value of the property and therefore her legal half share. I can understand that there could be a few reasons why she could expect to claim a higher amount - such as having a child dependant from the marriage who has not yet reached 18 years - having spend an amount of money maintaining ( not 'extending' for her own pleasure ) the whole property for which she can produce receipts. She must have been aware that a new-to-her property to continue her life in is not going to be cheap so, like the other half-share owner she will have to rent a property. She will have a lump sum and probably a state pension together with any money she has accumulated over the years of living either rent-free or possibly at a reduced amount. These savings are her responsibility - we all have to do it or run the risk of asking for Government help, she is aware that this was the only way her 'abandoned' legal husband could find a home when he let her remain in the marital home. My calculations from what we have been told, means the child of the marriage was no youngster when she walked out so was able to 'stand on his own two feet'.

2. If she has the plan to re-marry then surely the new gentleman will have to take over the responsibility of providing a home for his new wife, he should be delighted that 'she' is able to contribute a sizable half-share towards a new home for them both.

3. If she is to remain single then she will be in the same situation as she was when she walked away from the marriage in the first place so why insist on a divorce and then expect to get more than a full half share "'cos that's not enough to buy another property". Like others, she is choosing to downsize and live like they do - a reduction in her life-style. The only reason I can see for her having a larger share is if she has already paid a regular rent to the other 'half-share owner' during her period of self-imposed life as a single person.

Before you all fall asleep I will shut up. I am aware that this situation is none of my business!!!!! I do find it unfair if the way I have understood it is correct.
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Thing is, although I left her 10 years ago and said stay in the house as long as you need, the judge will say that I have a secure home and if the marital home has to be sold then the wifey will need to buy somewhere to live so will need more than half the proceeds .
This is how it works apparently.
If this happens she will be in the same position as she is now with rent free living and (I wont go into details but) will loose her free dentist, pension credit and free council tax.
Don't understand what she wants but that's women for you :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
landowner said:
Not lookin too rosy for the future
Looks like she could demand more than half the house in order to get herself another abode 🤔
Can't understand why she want's to move after livin there 40 years, upset will probably kill her at her age
But then again I do have my suspicions as to what's going on
onwards and upwards 🙂
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That is a right poop.
As she has lived in it rent free for the past 10 years I really cannot see how this can possibly be.
Who says she has to own a place in order to live in it?
R U sure your sollysitter is up to the job?
do make sure both he/she and the judge get the full picture of how rosy her life was once you separated. Plus the other person whose interest isn't primarily for her.

Very, very best of luck with it, mate! 🤞 🤞 🤞
 
derwendolly said:
First, let me say that I know nothing about this subject but from what I have read about this particular situation it seems to be very strange and very unfair to my understanding.

1. After so many years why has she suddenly decided she wants a divorce? I am sure she will be aware of the value of the property and therefore her legal half share. I can understand that there could be a few reasons why she could expect to claim a higher amount - such as having a child dependant from the marriage who has not yet reached 18 years - having spend an amount of money maintaining ( not 'extending' for her own pleasure ) the whole property for which she can produce receipts. She must have been aware that a new-to-her property to continue her life in is not going to be cheap so, like the other half-share owner she will have to rent a property. She will have a lump sum and probably a state pension together with any money she has accumulated over the years of living either rent-free or possibly at a reduced amount. These savings are her responsibility - we all have to do it or run the risk of asking for Government help, she is aware that this was the only way her 'abandoned' legal husband could find a home when he let her remain in the marital home. My calculations from what we have been told, means the child of the marriage was no youngster when she walked out so was able to 'stand on his own two feet'.

2. If she has the plan to re-marry then surely the new gentleman will have to take over the responsibility of providing a home for his new wife, he should be delighted that 'she' is able to contribute a sizable half-share towards a new home for them both.

3. If she is to remain single then she will be in the same situation as she was when she walked away from the marriage in the first place so why insist on a divorce and then expect to get more than a full half share "'cos that's not enough to buy another property". Like others, she is choosing to downsize and live like they do - a reduction in her life-style. The only reason I can see for her having a larger share is if she has already paid a regular rent to the other 'half-share owner' during her period of self-imposed life as a single person.

Before you all fall asleep I will shut up. I am aware that this situation is none of my business!!!!! I do find it unfair if the way I have understood it is correct.
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Totally agree with you. If the solicitor is going along with her ideas thenhe/she needs replacing. Sorry to be harsh but I think your interpretation matches mine exactly. Having cake and eating it springs to mind.
 
landowner said:
........... the judge will say that I have a secure home and if the marital home has to be sold then the wifey will need to buy somewhere to live so will need more than half the proceeds .
:rolleyes:
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But the house doesn't HAVE to be sold even after the divorce. You would then be two independant single people who just happen to be joint owners of a property and if you choose to leave your share on the conditions it was first offered then she still has a home. It does mean that you won't get your half until she dies and then it will have to be sold so that her beneficiaries get their inheritance and you ( or your beneficiaries) get yours.
 
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landowner said:
Thing is, although I left her 10 years ago and said stay in the house as long as you need, the judge will say that I have a secure home and if the marital home has to be sold then the wifey will need to buy somewhere to live so will need more than half the proceeds .
This is how it works apparently.
If this happens she will be in the same position as she is now with rent free living and (I wont go into details but) will loose her free dentist, pension credit and free council tax.
Don't understand what she wants but that's women for you :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Still don't see how your generosity can backfire on you and kick you in the teeth. "as long as you need" isn't 10 years by any stretch of the imagination.
Again don't see why she "will need to BUY somewhere to live".
Most sincerely hope you have a judge who sees things the way they are.
 
landowner said:
Thing is, although I left her 10 years ago and said stay in the house as long as you need, the judge will say that I have a secure home and if the marital home has to be sold then the wifey will need to buy somewhere to live so will need more than half the proceeds .
This is how it works apparently.
If this happens she will be in the same position as she is now with rent free living and (I wont go into details but) will loose her free dentist, pension credit and free council tax.
Don't understand what she wants but that's women for you :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Am I missing something?
Do you own your own home?
I thought you lived in a council place.
If you do then your place is much less secure than one that she could own and then dispose off as and when she sees fit. You have to pay rent she doesn't. simple as.
If I am wrong and you do own your own place, then it all seems a lot fairer.
I may well have got the wrong end of the stick.
 
I jointly own the marital home which she still lives in, I managed to get a council property since leaving.
Judge will say that I'm secure in my house but if marital home sold then she would need to buy a secure place which would cost more that half proceeds, worst case
 
landowner said:
I jointly own the marital home which she still lives in, I managed to get a council property since leaving.
Judge will say that I'm secure in my house but if marital home sold then she would need to buy a secure place which would cost more that half proceeds, worst case
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But if you are paying rent and she isn't, or won't be, and or won't be paying a mortgage, how can your place be "secure"???
STILL don't get this.
If you were to give up your council place then the property would have to be divided 50/50.
So you are being penailised for being a/ extremely generous and b/ for having the nous to get yourself a place that is "so called" secure.
If she ends up with more than half and in a property she owns, will she then have to cough up for half your rent?
That would be the only fair result.
Soz, I am not myself.:(:(
 
Ok, time to fess up.
We had to have Molly put to sleep tonight.
First time we have ever had to do this with any dog.
Everyone was totally in agreement, her brain was fried, she had cancer of the liver and her quality of life was zilch.
With all the other dogs we have ever owned this was the first time.
So not a fun time even though all the staff were lovely about it.
So we went to the producers' market, met loads of friends, got well sozzled and felt their support. Ate well too.
W is now in bed and I am sitting here grizzling a bit.

Still 15.5 years is a good innings.
R.I.P Molly. :(:(:(
 
Stanleysteamer said:
But if you are paying rent and she isn't, or won't be, and or won't be paying a mortgage, how can your place be "secure"???
STILL don't get this.
If you were to give up your council place then the property would have to be divided 50/50.
So you are being penailised for being a/ extremely generous and b/ for having the nous to get yourself a place that is "so called" secure.
If she ends up with more than half and in a property she owns, will she then have to cough up for half your rent?
That would be the only fair result.
Soz, I am not myself.:(:(
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Unfortunately it doesn't work fairly
I should have said sell the house ten years ago but hey
I think I'll come out ok if my lady solicitor doe her job, she seems on the ball any way
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Ok, time to fess up.
We had to have Molly put to sleep tonight.
First time we have ever had to do this with any dog.
Everyone was totally in agreement, her brain was fried, she had cancer of the liver and her quality of life was zilch.
With all the other dogs we have ever owned this was the first time.
So not a fun time even though all the staff were lovely about it.
So we went to the producers' market, met loads of friends, got well sozzled and felt their support. Ate well too.
W is now in bed and I am sitting here grizzling a bit.

Still 15.5 years is a good innings.
R.I.P Molly. :(:(:(
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A very sad time but you must take great comfort from making such a difficult decision for the good of the dog - you did the very best for her at all times and I'm sure she had a wonderful life. It's such a pity that their lifespan is not the same as ours.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Ok, time to fess up.
We had to have Molly put to sleep tonight.
First time we have ever had to do this with any dog.
Everyone was totally in agreement, her brain was fried, she had cancer of the liver and her quality of life was zilch.
With all the other dogs we have ever owned this was the first time.
So not a fun time even though all the staff were lovely about it.
So we went to the producers' market, met loads of friends, got well sozzled and felt their support. Ate well too.
W is now in bed and I am sitting here grizzling a bit.

Still 15.5 years is a good innings.
R.I.P Molly. :(:(:(
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Sleep tight Molly
 
Can't go to bed just yet as it is still light so the hens will still be out.
Having consumed a bot of wine each I think I'll hit the Jamieson until nightfall. Can't even flipping spell it, will HAVE to get the bot out!

Ok it's Jameson.
Still triple distilled as is all Oirish whiskey! If you go for the cheap stuff go for this, although Famouse Grouse is a good second.
I'm rambling.......


Off to the fridge to get some ice!
 
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