I would just like to say

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gstuart said:
hiya

I wonder if the coil is split in the hot water cyl , as that will cause water to raise on the header tank if the main tank is higher than the header tank

or in other instances if a header tank vent pipe is overflowing that will be a cold feed blockage where it enters the system , due to when hot and cold mix it causes a restriction

indeed ref the smaller tank , or known as a F and E tank, ie feed and expansion tank will be for the heating

hope that’s what ur saying and makes sense , lol
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Yup I think thats sounds right haha, I just remembered that I seen a few biggish air bubbles an wondered if it was an air lock
but now when you say blockage, when I ran a bath the other night there was what looked like what I can describe as dead flys lol
Just black floaty flakes but nothing after this all clean.

Ta much :) :)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
I once owned a "chalet style" semi. the loft insulation was a total joke, the water tank was in fact two tanks either side of the loft hatch so to get through to the rest of the roof all I had was two small triangular holes. I got the council to pay for insulation via a grant so it was fibreglass rolls which I had to somehow shove through these triangles then squeeze myself through.
Being "chalet style" there were flat roofs over the dormer style windows with no way of insulating them unless I made a tool. so I made a thing like a rake with nails sticking out to stick in the insulation and push it out into the thin space above the dormers. It sort of worked but obviously still wasn't very thick.
At one point scrambling through the triangle for the umpteenth time, itching like heck with the fibreglass I got a bit upset and wriggled too hard, busting the ceiling on the triangle, so "making good " had to take place.
No fun at all so I massively symapthise with you, mate!:(:(:(
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Im always suited & booted for fibreglass jobs, I did get some FREE 100mm insulation boards last week 🤣 🤣
Id need to chop them up as they aint getting through my loft hatch :confused:
 
kevstar said:
Move in & let mine out as a holiday home. Not interested in a full time rental. I dont think there will be much profit in
buying fixing & selling. :)
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After you have put all this effort in to build your garridge? What a shame!
Is it a lot bigger or more comfortable or has a better view or what?
Why would you not want to do it up and then rent it out as a holiday place? If it is only for summer lets you wouldn't have to worry too much about putting central heating in!
When a student, me and a couple of other peeps rented what was normally a summer holiday let. Obvs we rented it from October to June. It had no CH, the only heating was a tiny fireplace in the corner of the main room with enormously high ceilings as it used to be a Victorian school house, so all the windows were high up the walls so the kids couldn't see out of them! It had more outer walls than you could shake a stick at, and a stream (Dawlish water) ran around about half of it so it was so damp that a cake of soap simply dissolved if you left it in the bathroom. Freezing!
BUT in the summer it was a fabulous place and of course didn't need heating!

just a thought.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
After you have put all this effort in to build your garridge? What a shame!
Is it a lot bigger or more comfortable or has a better view or what?
Why would you not want to do it up and then rent it out as a holiday place? If it is only for summer lets you wouldn't have to worry too much about putting central heating in!
When a student, me and a couple of other peeps rented what was normally a summer holiday let. Obvs we rented it from October to June. It had no CH, the only heating was a tiny fireplace in the corner of the main room with enormously high ceilings as it used to be a Victorian school house, so all the windows were high up the walls so the kids couldn't see out of them! It had more outer walls than you could shake a stick at, and a stream (Dawlish water) ran around about half of it so it was so damp that a cake of soap simply dissolved if you left it in the bathroom. Freezing!
BUT in the summer it was a fabulous place and of course didn't need heating!

just a thought.
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Well here's the thing the land which joins onto my garage boundary is owned by that property so suits me just fine.
Im not as daft as I look. ;)
 
kevstar said:
There is another insulated smaller tank next to the one with the ball valve, I think this is the one that is fed from the
back boiler then goes into the lower storage tank with the leccy heating element, id need to spend a bit of time tracing
the pipes & see whats doing what.

Yer Dont insulate under the tank. (Noted)
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The large tank is the cold water storage tank that feeds the hot and cold water to the bathroom taps and the hot on the kitchen sink unless the cold taps in the bathroom run of the mains ( this can be tested by putting the palm of your hand up tight to the spout hole and turning on the tap if you spurts out and you get wet its of the main, if you can hold against it its of the tank)
the hot water cylinder is feed in at the bottom from the storage tank and out the top,
the smaller tank in the loft is the feed and expansion tank for the heating system and the coil of pipe inside the hot water cylinder.

if your bathroom cold taps are of the main especially if you have a bath shower mixer with a hose and you turn both taps on and there is a twist in the hose it can cause the mains to back feed up the hot and cause the tank to overflow.
as a temp measure you could use some wood or ive used copper pipe flattened on the ends and put over the bellied out part to pull and hold the tank back in place (some tanks used to have braces )
new tanks have lids that clip over and hold it all square and come with all the insulation ballvalve and bits called a byelaw 30 kit which seals the tank to stop any bits getting in that should not be there wasps, pigeons and the like.

Do ask away if any help is needed.
 
brianp38dse said:
The large tank is the cold water storage tank that feeds the hot and cold water to the bathroom taps and the hot on the kitchen sink unless the cold taps in the bathroom run of the mains ( this can be tested by putting the palm of your hand up tight to the spout hole and turning on the tap if you spurts out and you get wet its of the main, if you can hold against it its of the tank)
the hot water cylinder is feed in at the bottom from the storage tank and out the top,
the smaller tank in the loft is the feed and expansion tank for the heating system and the coil of pipe inside the hot water cylinder.

if your bathroom cold taps are of the main especially if you have a bath shower mixer with a hose and you turn both taps on and there is a twist in the hose it can cause the mains to back feed up the hot and cause the tank to overflow.
as a temp measure you could use some wood or ive used copper pipe flattened on the ends and put over the bellied out part to pull and hold the tank back in place (some tanks used to have braces )
new tanks have lids that clip over and hold it all square and come with all the insulation ballvalve and bits called a byelaw 30 kit which seals the tank to stop any bits getting in that should not be there wasps, pigeons and the like.

Do ask away if any help is needed.
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Thanks pal, the taps are deffo on the mains as is the bath, the shower is via a pump, tee'd off the bath cold feed.
Ive braced it for the mo but I will get a new tank at the weekend. Thanks for the info I may need your advice in the
near future. Ta much ;)
 
kevstar said:
Thanks pal, the taps are deffo on the mains as is the bath, the shower is via a pump, tee'd off the bath cold feed.
Ive braced it for the mo but I will get a new tank at the weekend. Thanks for the info I may need your advice in the
near future. Ta much ;)
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I was reading Garys answers and if the vent pipe from the hot water cylinder does not go high enough and drops down to low and the end is in the water it can cycle round and heat the tank up which could make it go out of shape.
 
kevstar said:
Well here's the thing the land which joins onto my garage boundary is owned by that property so suits me just fine.
Im not as daft as I look. ;)
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Ok, got that.
So you could redraw the boundary and enclose the garridge on the land of tother house.
But what makes you want to move into it rather than stay where you are and rent tother one out? ;)
 
oops forgot!
Chris Chope, our utterly stinking MP, has dared to send us all a questionnaire about what he and the tories should be thinking about doing in the future.
Apart from using the letter, enclosed questionnaire and stamped addressed envelope as loo paper, I am thinking very seriously about what I could do to attract the attention of this total and utter ****head to his failings, as an MP and as a human being.
(He makes Suella Braverman look good, well almost.)
www.theyworkforyou.com

Voting record - Christopher Chope MP, Christchurch

See how Christopher Chope voted on topics like Employment, Social Issues, Foreign Policy, and more.
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And this is to say nothing of his using parliamentary procedure to block any law preventing upskirting and female genital mutilation at least in the short term. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
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