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Trying to drizz here, must be the low cloud wringing itself out on the hillside ...
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Afternoon folks, busy morning may have a cheeky nap.
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You can indeed get duffle coats still
www.cordings.co.uk
It's a bit pricey though. I'm sure @Hippo would look very fetching in it.
Green Montgomery Duffle Coat
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Occasionally see them about. Fink they're more of a retro trend.
The temp is not that cold TBH and it was starting to thaw in the afternoon, (not quick) supposed to be cold overnight and tomorrow but sunny.
Oh the fire
Yes, we always feel something is missing when we don't have it alight, the "black hole" in the corner during the summer.J
Bizarrely our ex s-i-l came over day before yessdi and he was talking about a customer who asked him to come over as he has a heat pump and it couldn't handle heating the water and the house. If it did heat the house, it could only manage the ground floor. He was saying , as many do, that ground source works better, (he himself built a house for his family with this in which had to go when he got divorced) but that airsourced heat pumps are no flipping good in this country.
As I think many of you know, we have electric underfloor heating in Frogland. It is good but not cheap to run. We put it on as little as possible. Which fortunately is rarely. But the only sensible solution for people like us who only live there 6 months a year.
It'll be interesting to see how it settles down.
I would say, from considering it early in our process that ground source is the better option. But you need a fair bit of land or deep oles.
But the ground is a more constant temp so the calculation can be made a bit more reliably.
The biggest problem is most will cost it to the cheapest so the system is running flat out at X temp. So when things get below X temp you have no reserve.
But as our electrickery supply is sketchy and it would use all our solar we are happy with the "wet" underfloor and burn wood in the hypnotic fire
.J
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There was a telly program on ground source some years ago. Peeps came up with the idea of drilling deep holes and filling with pipe and backfill, instead of needing a chunk of land to lay pipe and recover. The trials were said to be working well at the time.I would say, from considering it early in our process that ground source is the better option. But you need a fair bit of land or deep oles.
But the ground is a more constant temp so the calculation can be made a bit more reliably.
The biggest problem is most will cost it to the cheapest so the system is running flat out at X temp. So when things get below X temp you have no reserve.
But as our electrickery supply is sketchy and it would use all our solar we are happy with the "wet" underfloor and burn wood in the hypnotic fire
J
Yes and its always constant unlike the air temp, the deeper the ole higher the temps for conversion in the heat pump.
Air source to me is a bit of a con, as the air temps drop its harder to attain the claimed heat exchange "heat to rooms" I expect they do the calcs on average rather than coldest.
Guess what happens?
Peeps think a 5k system is "only the cost of a new gas boiler install" when really they need to spend 10k to have some in reserve
.Just my thinking.
I am not a heating engineer but I have never lived in a cold house
.J
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Air source are only good for well insulated homes. Tis true that you have to over spec the system. Installers are getting betterer but some slip through. There was a chap on the sea front moaning on telly. His install was never going to be any good wiv the oft shore wind coming in.Yes and its always constant unlike the air temp, the deeper the ole higher the temps for conversion in the heat pump.
Air source to me is a bit of a con, as the air temps drop its harder to attain the claimed heat exchange "heat to rooms" I expect they do the calcs on average rather than coldest.
Guess what happens?
Peeps think a 5k system is "only the cost of a new gas boiler install" when really they need to spend 10k to have some in reserve
Just my thinking.
I am not a heating engineer but I have never lived in a cold house
J
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I doubt he'd have done it if he didn't have a biggish plot and the ability to dig a deep trench for the gorund source and to then lay it all himself in the trench.I would say, from considering it early in our process that ground source is the better option. But you need a fair bit of land or deep oles.
But the ground is a more constant temp so the calculation can be made a bit more reliably.
The biggest problem is most will cost it to the cheapest so the system is running flat out at X temp. So when things get below X temp you have no reserve.
But as our electrickery supply is sketchy and it would use all our solar we are happy with the "wet" underfloor and burn wood in the hypnotic fire
J
After the divorce he was forced to sell the house. He didn't have anywhere else to live so he cut his land in two. The ground source stuff thus lay out from the house, under the wall he built and under the land he hung onto. So he disconnected it all and provided the house with a conventional boiler so it still had under floor heating etc. He converted his big toolshed/workshop into a house and now lives there.
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ex s-i-l said you need to spend 15K to get anywhere near anything that could work.Yes and its always constant unlike the air temp, the deeper the ole higher the temps for conversion in the heat pump.
Air source to me is a bit of a con, as the air temps drop its harder to attain the claimed heat exchange "heat to rooms" I expect they do the calcs on average rather than coldest.
Guess what happens?
Peeps think a 5k system is "only the cost of a new gas boiler install" when really they need to spend 10k to have some in reserve
Just my thinking.
I am not a heating engineer but I have never lived in a cold house
J
Any system is only any good if its speced for the house its going in
.One size does not fit all.
But yes, Insulate, Insulate
.J
Like I said I am no exsquirt and gave up on sizing when I realized the electric situation/need.
J
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The boss is allowed to forget things
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+1 I have seen bore holes drilled and coils installed but its got a long way to go defiantly wouldn't work for us ♨♨I would say, from considering it early in our process that ground source is the better option. But you need a fair bit of land or deep oles.
But the ground is a more constant temp so the calculation can be made a bit more reliably.
The biggest problem is most will cost it to the cheapest so the system is running flat out at X temp. So when things get below X temp you have no reserve.
But as our electrickery supply is sketchy and it would use all our solar we are happy with the "wet" underfloor and burn wood in the hypnotic fire
J
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Look oot for a friendly mole. He'll know where to dig.
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