I would just like to say

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DanClarke said:
Morning All :D
Lovely Sunny Day again here. :)
My right knee is complaining about 3 x 8yd skip fillings and both my biceps are like jelly after this week. :( Boy am I sore.
But today I shall be luxuriating in a bath of "No OPDIY" and Swanning around Clarke Towers like I own the place....Oh, hang on I do own the place. ;)
I will still nip up the builders merchants for a sheet of Plasterboard as the plasterer wants me to cover the reveals with a tiny strip of board even though the reveal is <1".
Have a splendid day everyone. :D
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A whole sheet, for just the reveals?
You'll have a lot left over. any plans for it?
;););)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
She's right you know, and now you've told her about the morgidge she can see that this year or next there ain't much in it.
Better alive in a house with a small morgidge than a wake in one that has been paid off.
Don't ride yourself so hard, the race to the graveyard is one you don't want to win!
I am sure you are that good that you will always have work. Don't worry about having to pass on a couple of jobs.
Know how you feel though. Have a mate who is always scared that each job is going to be his last, and it never is!
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Very true I will scale it back, im looking to take a few lads on or sub the jobs out or make people wait.
Our work is very good people will wait for quality. Also been asked to build two houses but we knocked
them back for the time being.

(wait for my next post) ffs :mad:
 
The PO and the Jap company who made the Horizon system will now sit on their hands for as long as they can hoping yet more of these poor peeps die before being forced to pay up.
Wifey, who at the time it all kicked off was still working as a Compliance Officer/International IT Auditor, claimed she could get to the bottom of it in very short order.
Sadly she wasn't called upon to do so!
Shame, as she was bloody good at her job and found all sorts of sh!t in all sorts of big company's systems.
Tis again the case of the arrogance of the bosses overcoming the genuine claims of the little people.
 
Eye followed the mail case. Tis shocking to see a large company carry oat the detective work then take oat a private prosecution, while choosing what info they give oat. They were aware their method was dishonest and would give an unsafe result of guilty. They held back evidence they knew would strengthen the post masters defence. Ultimately fixing the trial result in their favour.

The ruling today is also damaging for the courts as they let it go through the courts in a way that was unfair. That's the problem with not having a separate body like the cps review the case and make the decision to go to trial, in a private prosecution like this.

The case against the post masters centered around the fact they were the only ones who had access to their accounts. A support tech on the system said that was wrong because they could log int remotely so had access anorl. That only came to light in court.

It was only after the number of post masters who were in trouble with losses in their accounts grew, that post masters began to realise they were in the same situation as others. The help line effectively said no one else has the problem. You need to make up the loss yerself. And many did to the tune of tens of thousands of sovs as the computer system would lose money on several occasions. They were told no one else had the same problems... but they did and royal mail knew this.

Royal mail singled oat the post masters and never shared the fact there were many others in the same situation. The number of faulty accounts not adding up correctly grew and they didn't look into why. They blamed the post masers instead. They used their size and power over the post masters to beat them down, then win court cases against them.

Bastids
 
kevstar said:
Very true I will scale it back, im looking to take a few lads on or sub the jobs out or make people wait.
Our work is very good people will wait for quality. Also been asked to build two houses but we knocked
them back for the time being.

(wait for my next post) ffs :mad:
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Glad to hear it.
Last thing we want to hear is that you're in the hospicle posting from a bed in an ICU again.
I'd have said you need to be very clever about subbing jobs out unless you really trust their work.
Meanwhile "yes" to the rest of it and not a "no" to the subbing out, just a qualified "yes".
Look after yourself, mate!;):):):)
 
Hippo said:
Eye followed the mail case. Tis shocking to see a large company carry oat the detective work then take oat a private prosecution, while choosing what info they give oat. They were aware their method was dishonest and would give an unsafe result of guilty. They held back evidence they knew would strengthen the post masters defence. Ultimately fixing the trial result in their favour.

The ruling today is also damaging for the courts as they let it go through the courts in a way that was unfair. That's the problem with not having a separate body like the cps review the case and make the decision to go to trial, in a private prosecution like this.

The case against the post masters centered around the fact they were the only ones who had access to their accounts. A support tech on the system said that was wrong because they could log int remotely so had access anorl. That only came to light in court.

It was only after the number of post masters who were in trouble with losses in their accounts grew, that post masters began to realise they were in the same situation as others. The help line effectively said no one else has the problem. You need to make up the loss yerself. And many did to the tune of tens of thousands of sovs as the computer system would lose money on several occasions. They were told no one else had the same problems... but they did and royal mail knew this.

Royal mail singled oat the post masters and never shared the fact there were many others in the same situation. The number of faulty accounts not adding up correctly grew and they didn't look into why. They blamed the post masers instead. They used their size and power over the post masters to beat them down, then win court cases against them.

Bastids
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Couldn't agree more.

Knee jerk reaction of bosses in big companies,= blame the feck out of others/the small men/women etc. Don't let on there's a problem.
THEN fiddle things like feck to avoid the truth coming out and blow what happens to the little person.
So often Wifey was employed to "prove" a system was robust and she found out the complete opposite!
She was once so disbelieved she insisted on the company calling in IBM to test the system. They said exactly what she said and left the company with a flea in its ear.
Quite a tough job that not many want to do and few can do well.
But I don't need to tell you that!;)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
The PO and the Jap company who made the Horizon system will now sit on their hands for as long as they can hoping yet more of these poor peeps die before being forced to pay up.
Wifey, who at the time it all kicked off was still working as a Compliance Officer/International IT Auditor, claimed she could get to the bottom of it in very short order.
Sadly she wasn't called upon to do so!
Shame, as she was bloody good at her job and found all sorts of in all sorts of big company's systems.
Tis again the case of the arrogance of the bosses overcoming the genuine claims of the little people.
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They won't sit on hands. They have to react fast or face additional costs of being dragged through the courts by post masters claiming back what they lost. There will be a reasonable time given for reaction. If they fail then action against them will start. Action they have only one way of stopping, or court proceedings follow.
 
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Hippo said:
They won't sit on hands. They have to react fast or face additional costs of being dragged through the courts by post masters claiming back what they lost. There will be a reasonable time given for reaction. If they fail then action against them will start. Action they have only one way of stopping, or court proceedings follow.
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I hope you are right.
I saw a worrying thing on the news where there may be a loophole they could use to avoid prosecution.:(:(:(
Common sense says you are right but the courts don't know what that means. :rolleyes:
Time will tell but I have everything crossed for them!:):):)
 
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