Dumb**** in SUV runs over Sunbather

"Clave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "John David Galt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Scott in Aztlan wrote:
> > > What's annoying to me is the fact that "COMPACT" spaces even exist.
The lot
> > > should be designed so that all the spaces are sized for an Excursion
or a
> > > Hummer. These "COMPACT" spaces are just the result of poor
design/layout.
> >
> > True, but that poor design/layout is nearly always mandated by local
zoning
> > authorities who insist that parking lots be "landscaped" (contain
needless
> > obstacles such as islands and trees). What's wrong with plain old flat
> > pavement and plenty of it?
>
> To make sure that people don't drive like fools, duh.
>
> I used to have an office overlooking one of those plain old flat pavement
lots
> with nothing but stripes to impede. There were car-car collisions at
least once
> a week and car-ped incidents at least once every couple of months.
>
> Jim
>
>

Hey Clam, remember the gigantic lie you told recently about traffic-lights
that were "deliberately polarized" to prevent people from "anticipating the
light"?


-Cap

In rec.autos.driving Scott in Aztlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sure, we can do a lot of great things if you can count on people not to be
> assholes. Unfortunately, you will never be able to count on that, so best to
> plan accordingly.

Yeah, well you missed the rest of my post where I basically said the same
thing.

Alice

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[email protected] (Dave=A0C.), Wrote:

>>The Associated Press
>>ORMOND BEACH, Fla. --
>>The driver of a sport utility vehicle who drove
>>over a sunbather on the beach earlier this week
>>has been charged with a traffic violation.
>>Tiffany Knapp, 30, of Ormond Beach, was
>>ticketed for illegal backing, Volusia County
>>Beach Patrol spokesman Joe Wooden said
>>Friday. The maximum fine is $72, he said.

>OK, run over a person, get fined $72 (or less).
>I'll remember that the next time someone really
>****es me off and I see them walking down the
>treet.

That's the ticket, no pun intended. Murder is perfectly legal using a
vehicle as long one isn't DWI. Funny though, if such a 'error' occurred
with a sword, gun, knife, baseball bat, product, service, et.al causing
maiming/death, the individual would be charged with a felony or high
misdemeanor. Except for illness with a biological origin, the highest
risk of injury and death for the citizen is on the highway.

BTW, note the irony of "Knapp".

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>-Dave


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"Al Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote

> >What a utopia you must inhabit!
>
> I said "should be" - generally, these are lots owned by some business
> who are reluctant to tow their customers (or tenants).
>
No such problem with one business (A pub) which was having shoppers park in
their customer space. They hired a Clamping firm, if someone parked in their
park and didn't enter the pub, they got a clamp and a $60 bill to have it
removed.

Theres also a place in Auckland (crowded city) with a tow truck permanently
parked in a reserved park right next to the main gate witht he driver in
attendance. A very good deterant for would be parking nasties.

> >Invariably, when you call them, they
> >arrive well after the perpetrator has departed.

Thats what clamps are for. IIRC a firm here hires them out by the month and
if someone parks on your place you can use your clamp on the car and call
the company, they'll send someone to shake down their clamp removal fee from
the hapless parking fool.

rhys

[email protected] (Ian=A0St.=A0John), Wrote:

>"Dave C."
><[email protected]> wrote
>in message

>>OK, run over a person, get fined $72 (or less).

>Yes. That is for illegal backing. It assesses fault
>for a breach of driving protocol. It is hardly the
>last word. As this was not a criminal case but a
>case of driver error, the penalties are not really
>a reflection of the consequnces. The civil
>liability is not yet settled, and will center around
>any negligence that can be assessed.

How does one perform civil litigation against a person with no money?
Do you think a person should be still driving if they ran someone over
because of "breach of driving protocol"?

How 'bout if I were yakking on the cell phone while cleaning my handgun
in the backyard. Your 12 year old daughter, a straight A student, a
girl scout, member of the NHS and an excellent swimmer who has been
contacted by the Olympic committee is my neighbor practicing her diving
skills. Me, dumb**** accidentally discharges the gun into your backyard
forever removing your daughter's left kidney, spleen and aspirations of
Olympic swimming as well as her using a cane for the rest of her life.

Ya think the PD will issue me a $72 summons or perhaps enable me to
become intimately familiar with the county jail. What if I caused the
_exact_ same injuries using my car. How is that different?

>>I'll remember that the next
>>time someone really ****es me off and I see
>>them walking down the treet. -Dave

>I'm sure that anyone that knows you goes
>around in fear of your stupidity, avoiding eye
>contact and moving to the other side of the
>street, but remember that the criminal act of
>running over someone deliberately is not the
>same as the accidental act from carelessness.

So, um... if I'm a wrecking ball operator but "careless" not using
proper lighting, signaling, yakking on the phone, weaving the ball back
and forth in 'wreaking ball road rage' and accidentally have the ball of
untold tonnage fall on a roof of an auditorium at an elementary school
killing a hundred children, the proper punishment should be? A summons
for Breach of Peace?

--
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of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
_____

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Agamemnon
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[email protected] (Chris=A0Phillipo), Wrote:

<snipped>

>Talking reason to the hypocritical greenies will
>only make their heads swell larger.

Do you understand the concept of facts and data? Measuring one pickup
vs. one car is not empirical evidence that SUV's aren't slower or unable
to pass to the right of an auto turning left. Almost all SUV's are
larger than the Toyota example given. And as for "hypocritical
greenies", I use my hatchback for *work* meaning I carry *cargo*, not a
soccer ball for my "environmentally responsible company" small business.
In addition, I have 5 inch flag on the rear window of my car which has
meaning unlike the typical SUV in the US with the giant flag on a
vehicle that directly supports the Islamic death cult.

>As it is they have already had to migrate from
>their econo compacts into econo mid sized cars
>just to cart this massive heads around.

My "econo" VW compact can outrun, corner and brake better than any SUV
on the twisty mountain roads, has better MPG, vastly superior rated
tires, far less manufacturing impact to the environment and with almost
as much cargo space. The turn signals work and the fog lights have an
"off" switch. Has all the amenities including heated seats, mirrors and
washers. Not to mention the 5 star crash rating and crush zones void on
an SUV. Well...okay, the $80,000 Porsche SUV can outrun my GTI. The
irony is it's just a wagon shaped like an SUV fairly low to the ground.
Dumb****s will only buy it if it's called an SUV rather than a wagon.

Hmmm...that gives me an idea. I'm gonna need a large downpayment on the
new A4 Cabriolet I'll be buying this spring which will be using natural
gas. I'll take my GTI, jack it up a couple of feet, slap some fat-assed
****ty tires on it, weld a couple of thousand pounds of sheet metal to
the sides, keep the same 1.8T engine and replace the fog light bulbs
with the halogen death-ray3000=99 brand. And I'll call
it...hmmm...YES.. The Toruareg! After some dolt pays me 35 grand for
the beast I'll only need 7 more for fun in the sun come spring.

I'm a ****ing genius, eh?

http://audiusa.com/model_gallery/0,,contentType-25_modelId-200419_status-P=
_countrycode-1_,00.html

How 'bout in that pretty blue? <heavy breathing.....censored>

--
Keith


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of a sparrow in the corner of a barn." -Anouk Aimee, French Actor
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Agamemnon
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:27:47 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] wrote:

>In rec.autos.driving Scott in Aztlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Sure, we can do a lot of great things if you can count on people not to be
>> assholes. Unfortunately, you will never be able to count on that, so best to
>> plan accordingly.
>
>Yeah, well you missed the rest of my post where I basically said the same
>thing.

No, I'm just agreeing with you.

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:00:28 -0800, John David Galt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>True, but that poor design/layout is nearly always mandated by local zoning
>authorities who insist that parking lots be "landscaped" (contain needless
>obstacles such as islands and trees). What's wrong with plain old flat
>pavement and plenty of it?

I shudder to think of what your back yard looks like... I'm guessing it's paved
over with concrete and painted green.

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not screaming like the passengers in his car.

Cap'n TrVth wrote:
> Hey Clam, remember the gigantic lie you told recently about traffic-lights
> that were "deliberately polarized" to prevent people from "anticipating the
> light"?

Those do exist, I've often seen them.

"John David Galt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Cap'n TrVth wrote:
> > Hey Clam, remember the gigantic lie you told recently about
traffic-lights
> > that were "deliberately polarized" to prevent people from "anticipating
the
> > light"?
>
> Those do exist, I've often seen them.

Well there ya go.

-Cap

[email protected] (BunnERabbit) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Poor soccer mom couldn't find a parking space. Too bad she didn't drive
> off a pier. That certainly would have increased the "safety" for the
> rest of us that don't drive the cartoony unsafe behemoths with goofy
> cornea searing lighting, view obstructing height, slow as molasses
> cornering, deadly high bumpers, a tailgating magnet, an inability to
> yield in traffic, no 'crush' zones, a sociopathic need to drive 80 mph
> in snow/rain, broken turn signals, a left lane blocking fetish, gluttony
> for fossil fuel, supporter of al Queda and a terminal asshole for a
> driver.
>
> Did I miss anything?
>

The sheeple mover.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:50:27 -0800, John David Galt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Cap'n TrVth wrote:
>> Hey Clam, remember the gigantic lie you told recently about traffic-lights
>> that were "deliberately polarized" to prevent people from "anticipating the
>> light"?
>
>Those do exist, I've often seen them.

So have I.

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When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather did -
not screaming like the passengers in his car.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:00:28 -0800, John David Galt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>True, but that poor design/layout is nearly always mandated by local zoning
>authorities who insist that parking lots be "landscaped" (contain needless
>obstacles such as islands and trees). What's wrong with plain old flat
>pavement and plenty of it?

It doesn't give the SUV drivers something to drive over?

"David W. Poole, Jr." <[email protected]>
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:00:28 -0800, John David Galt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >True, but that poor design/layout is nearly always mandated by local
zoning
> >authorities who insist that parking lots be "landscaped" (contain
needless
> >obstacles such as islands and trees). What's wrong with plain old flat
> >pavement and plenty of it?
>
> It doesn't give the SUV drivers something to drive over?
>
>
The little EconoBoxes are there for that.

rhys

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:23:23 -0800, Scott in Aztlan
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:00:28 -0800, John David Galt
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I shudder to think of what your back yard looks like... I'm guessing it's paved
>over with concrete and painted green.

It cuts down on the lawn mowing; astroturf is too expensive.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 02:54:38 -0500 (EST), [email protected]
(Keith) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>So, um... if I'm a wrecking ball operator but "careless" not using
>proper lighting, signaling, yakking on the phone, weaving the ball back
>and forth in 'wreaking ball road rage' and accidentally have the ball of
>untold tonnage fall on a roof of an auditorium at an elementary school
>killing a hundred children, the proper punishment should be? A summons
>for Breach of Peace?

Depends on the school, actually. Some of them, you should be given a
medal for outstanding public service.
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:37:55 -0500, "David W. Poole, Jr."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>I shudder to think of what your back yard looks like... I'm guessing it's paved
>>over with concrete and painted green.
>
>It cuts down on the lawn mowing; astroturf is too expensive.

Here's a suggestion: lease a portion of it to a cellular phone company so they
can put up one of those cell towers that look like trees. Not only will it
contribute to the landscaping, but the extra income is nice, too.

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not screaming like the passengers in his car.

"Scott in Aztlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:50:27 -0800, John David Galt
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Cap'n TrVth wrote:
> >> Hey Clam, remember the gigantic lie you told recently about
traffic-lights
> >> that were "deliberately polarized" to prevent people from "anticipating
the
> >> light"?
> >
> >Those do exist, I've often seen them.
>
> So have I.
>
> --
> When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather did -
> not screaming like the passengers in his car.

Can either one of you produce a link to the specs of a traffic-light that is
"deliberately polarized" to keep drivers from "anticipating signal changes"?

Some lights are designed to be visible -only- to the lanes they control and
to not be viewable outside of a given field. -Cross-walk signals often have
the more narrow field of view.

There are very specific reasons for changing the field of view in the new
LED traffic lights.

These options are selected by the Traffic Engineer for safety reasons that
DO NOT include; "To prevent drivers from anticipating signal changes."

The field of view is regulated by prisms, lenses and spacers that "inset"
the diodes -not- by "polarization" -Diodes are polarized to begin with..

HTH

-Cap'n TrVth

Cap'n TrVth wrote:
> These options are selected by the Traffic Engineer for safety reasons that
> DO NOT include; "To prevent drivers from anticipating signal changes."

Prove it. That's exactly the obvious reason.

> John David Galt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> True, but that poor design/layout is nearly always mandated by local zoning
>> authorities who insist that parking lots be "landscaped" (contain needless
>> obstacles such as islands and trees). What's wrong with plain old flat
>> pavement and plenty of it?

Scott in Aztlan wrote:
> I shudder to think of what your back yard looks like... I'm guessing it's paved
> over with concrete and painted green.

Naw, I just mow the crabgrass and weeds every year or two. It's shaded
enough by trees that nothing else will grow there anyway.