Dumb**** in SUV runs over Sunbather

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"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> > You mean not being able to illegally pass on the right?
>
> Oh, so YOU'RE the guy. Can't count the number of times I've been backed
up
> by traffic (for MINUTES at a time) by some imbecile who refuses to pass
> somebody turning left, even when there's plenty of room to do so. Even
many
> honking horns won't get some of these morons to MOVE. Yeah, in some cases
> it may be illegal to pass on the right. It's also illegal to impede the
> flow of traffic. Guess what will get you a ticket faster? -Dave
>
>

My friend just got a ticket for that, when a truck that was turning left
decided he really meant right. Needless to say, my friend was passing him on
the right, and the truck hit him. My friend got the ticket, even though the
driver was driving with a Mexican drivers license and was an illegal.


 
> That's funny, I navigated 2+ feet of snow in my FWD VW last winter
> without too much trouble. Of course I drove at the proper speed for
> conditions. The only trouble I did have was assholes in SUV's
> tailgating me as well as the accidents cause by dolts in SUV's who in
> error think they can drive and stop faster than a car in a blizzard.
> Ever see an SUV spin like a top on its roof?

I've owned several FWD vehicles manufactured on three continents and
firmly believe the much touted superiority of FWD is a product of the
SAAB marketing, with little basis in fact.
>
> Besides, AWD is superior than 4WD by far. I'll take a VW with quattro
> or a Suburu over any SUV in the rain or snow. Even if the SUV has AWD.
>

Do not confuse AWD with advanced traction control systems. AWD simply
means you are in 4WD all the time. One of your gripes with SUVs is
their waste fo resources, i.e. gasoline, and yet you laud AWD which to
drive all four wheels on dry pavememnt increases the load on your
engine, thereby needlessly burning more gasoline, as opossed to my 4WD
which I need to engage, well, when I need to.

 
Dan J.S. wrote:


>
> My friend got the ticket, even though the
> driver was driving with a Mexican drivers license and was an illegal.
>
>

And people wonder why Davis got run out of Sacremento.

 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> >
> > You mean not being able to illegally pass on the right?
>
> Oh, so YOU'RE the guy. Can't count the number of times I've been backed up
> by traffic (for MINUTES at a time) by some imbecile who refuses to pass
> somebody turning left, even when there's plenty of room to do so. Even many
> honking horns won't get some of these morons to MOVE. Yeah, in some cases
> it may be illegal to pass on the right. It's also illegal to impede the
> flow of traffic. Guess what will get you a ticket faster? -Dave
>
>

With your ignorance of traffic laws combined with your winning
personality, I don't think there's really any question who is more
likely to get the ticket.

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> > generalizing a lot of habits. Oh yeah, people that drive pickup trucks are
> > all red necks, right?
>
> Can I just butt in here for a moment to point out that the overwhelming majority
> of BMW drivers are selfish assholes?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

Hey did you know that often a minority of BMW drivers are not BMW owners
? :)
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 03:22:01 GMT, Kai Seymour <[email protected]>

>Al Lewis wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:17:18 GMT, Kai Seymour <[email protected]>
>
>>
>> You're under the mis-impression that SUVs are somehow different from
>> minivans - they're both oversized pieces of crap which cause too many
>> problems.
>>
>
>I forgot to add this to my previous post. My wife, tired of relying on
>my 4WD on snowy days, wanted one of her own. After driving it for a
>couple of days she developed some concerns regarding its size relative
>to her previous car.
>
>I got out my tape measure to prove to her the obvious: excluding
>height, her '98 4Runner is in NO dimension (length, width, wheelbase,
>track)

Interesting - you neglected height - one of the biggest problems with
those "cars". Why not calculate the center of gravity while you're at
it - if you can.

> more than 2 inches larger than her '91 Honda Accord 4-door.
>
>But then I guess that makes a 24 mpg (city) sedan a bloated road hog as
>well, hmmm? Or are you just one of those sandal wearing goofs who
>disapprove of any mode of transportation not human powered?

Are you one of those folks who thinks that anyone who says anything
negative about SUVs is a "sandal wearing goof"?

>By the way,
>my daily driver is getting 30+ mpg while placing me in mortal danger if
>I collide with anything larger than a shopping cart.

It's not my fault you chose a ****ty car for your daily driver. My car
doesn't place me in mortal danger, and I get 30+ mpg on the highway.


> Makes for an
>exhilarating commute into the ghetto.

I don't work in the ghetto either.

>
>What do you drive?

A car that doesn't endanger me or other drivers, nor one which
contributes disproportionately to pollution, traffic, or highway costs.
 
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:46:41 GMT, "Dave C."
<[email protected]>

>> You're under the mis-impression that SUVs are somehow different from
>> minivans - they're both oversized pieces of crap which cause too many
>> problems.
>>
>>
>
>Other than not being able to tow anything, WHAT the heck is wrong with
>minivans? Sheesh. -Dave
>

Many of the same things that are wrong with SUVs
 

> >What do you drive?
>
> A car that doesn't endanger me or other drivers, nor one which

And yet you seem embarrassed to identify it.
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Kai Seymour <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Do not confuse AWD with advanced traction control systems. AWD simply
> means you are in 4WD all the time.

Well, not exactly. Since the early '80s and Audi's introduction of
the Quattro, 4WD and AWD have become acronyms for two distinctly
different things.

'4WD' now generally refers to vehicles that either: 1) go from 2WD to
lock all wheels together rotationally, with no differential effect at
all; or (incorrectly, IMO) 2) go from 2WD mode to an AWD mode when
switched or shifted to do so.

'AWD' generally refers to vehicles that are: 1) *always* driven by all
wheels with varying differential action between the various sets of
them; or 2) usually driven by 2 wheels but automatically and
transparently shift into an AWD mode of some kind when needed; or 3)
as above, a vehicle operable in 2WD mode and shifted into an AWD mode
that can be used all the time with differential action between the
wheels.

> One of your gripes with SUVs is
> their waste fo resources, i.e. gasoline, and yet you laud AWD which to
> drive all four wheels on dry pavememnt increases the load on your
> engine, thereby needlessly burning more gasoline, as opossed to my 4WD
> which I need to engage, well, when I need to.

If you can support a *measurable* and statistically *significant*
difference in economy between a modern AWD *automobile* (not SUV)
drivetrain and its 2WD counterpart, I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll
convince my wife to sell the Jag (AWD X-Type) ... yeah, right.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that)
 
"Clave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Can I just butt in here for a moment to point out that the overwhelming
> majority of BMW drivers are selfish assholes?

No. Not until you tell us what *you* drive so we can make fun of it.
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> >
> > On the other hand, nobody buys a mini-van as a status symobol.
>
> Sure they do. They just don't know they're doing it.
>
> Jim

Omigod, that's got to be the funniest reply in usenet history!!! -Dave


 
Why is it relavant that this was an SUV? It could have just as easily been a
sedan or a mini van.

Ed

 
"C.R. Krieger" <[email protected]> wrote
> If you can support a *measurable* and statistically *significant*
> difference in economy between a modern AWD *automobile* (not SUV)
> drivetrain and its 2WD counterpart, I'd like to see it. Maybe I'll
> convince my wife to sell the Jag (AWD X-Type) ... yeah, right.

My 330xi gets about 1mpg less than a 330i. Part of the difference
is higher-ratio diffs to maintain acceleration performance.

Our AWD Grand Caravan also gets about 1mpg less than a non-AWD
van.

Floyd


 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Why is it relavant that this was an SUV? It could have just as easily been a
> sedan or a mini van.
>
> Ed
>
>

The writer would not been able to paint a picture of an SUV barreling
across a sandy beach hunting for unsuspecting sunbathers had it been a
Honda Odyssey driving around the parking lot. In fact I bet if it was a
minivan or car it would not have made the news.
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Admittedly I don't know all the facts from this skimpy article, but I
find it interesting that the officer in his case wasn't charged (they
never are), but the woman will be.

If that had been a cop in the SUV, there'd be no charges there either
I'm sure. Cops never do anything wrong.



John

BunnERabbit wrote:
>
> Poor soccer mom couldn't find a parking space. Too bad she didn't drive
> off a pier. That certainly would have increased the "safety" for the
> rest of us that don't drive the cartoony unsafe behemoths with goofy
> cornea searing lighting, view obstructing height, slow as molasses
> cornering, deadly high bumpers, a tailgating magnet, an inability to
> yield in traffic, no 'crush' zones, a sociopathic need to drive 80 mph
> in snow/rain, broken turn signals, a left lane blocking fetish, gluttony
> for fossil fuel, supporter of al Queda and a terminal asshole for a
> driver.
>
> Did I miss anything?
>
> --
> Keith
>
>
> http://www.local6.com/news/2573348/detail.html
>
> Driver Of SUV Backs Over Sunbather In Volusia
>
> A 53-year-old woman was crushed Wednesday when the driver of a sport
> utility vehicle backed over her as she slept on a beach chair at a
> Volusia County, Fla., beach, according to Local 6 News.
>
> Sunbather Run Over By SUV
>
> Lifeguards said Gelenda Willits was run over and then pinned under the
> vehicle for more than 20 minutes on a portion of Ormond Beach, near the
> Granada ramp.
>
> "I heard a thump and heard a woman scream," Jerri Decosta said. "When I
> looked over, I saw the back of the car jump in the air and come back
> down and I heard the woman scream.
>
> Police said the driver of the vehicle was apparently looking for a
> parking spot when she ran over the woman. The bottom of the SUV came to
> rest on her torso, Local 6 News reporter Tarik Minor reported.
>
> Lifeguards and passerby used their hands to dig the woman from under the
> vehicle.
>
> "We shoveled by hand to pull the sand out from underneath her and then
> moved her out a little bit," witness Bob Decosta said.
>
> Beach patrol spokesman Kevin Sweat said the soft sand may have saved the
> woman's life because it allowed the chair to give a little under the
> 5,000-pound vehicle.
>
> Willits was removed from under the vehicle and transported to Halifax
> Medical Center. She is in serious condition, Local 6 News reported.
>
> The name of the driver has not been released.
> Local 6 News reported that the woman driving the SUV will be charged.
>
> In February, a 27-year-old French woman was killed and her sister badly
> injured when they were run over by a police vehicle looking for a mugger
> on Miami's South Beach.
>
> The officer will not be charged, but the family of Stephanie Tunc has
> sued the city for negligence.
>
> Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
>
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So who's really in the details, God or the devil?

 
Herb Suol wrote:
> Amen to that...
> Actually the one jackass I REALLY can't stand is the all mightly little dick
> Hummer drivers. These idiots are a total joke!!! Move over....here comes
> General Franks!!!! I guess it's true, size of the vehicle reflects the size
> of the ego.

What's annoying is when they park in the COMPACT spaces.

I was a passenger in a Toyota Land Bruiser once and the driver squeezed
into a space meant for compacts. There was no way the driver next to
him was getting back into his car unless he crawled through the sunroof.
I "joked" to him that his car was hardly a compact and he replied,
without irony, "I don't want to have to walk." (The compact spaces were
a little closer to the store.)

Keep in mind this guy belongs to a health club and forks out several
hundred dollars a month to run on a high-tech treadmill in designer
shorts while MSNBC plays over his head. But he can't walk one extra row
of spaces to the supermarket.



John

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