Buying Advice

So I have located a 2006 RR Vogue
Is there a way of finding out if its built with the dodgy ZF gearbox?
only have the reg number

are there any other things I need to look out for when buying
- intercooler pipes
- egr issues
- corrosion
- air suspension
- lights on dash


my friend has offered to give me his diagnostic reader from his garage where is the OBD port located

isnt it the jag engine in that year. mine is

thats what I thought but confused will need to check with seller #

did the boxes also change with the engine

and am i right in thinking its the TDV6 boxes that are dodge

sorry i thought it was petrol petrol are the better engines and boxes. in the 4.4 ones.dont know if they changed tdv6

petrol be £££££ for me to run lol as buying two 4x4 one RR and one Cayenne

these are the best engine for lpg 40 miles to gallon. because they run colder than other engines ive found.

It is not a TDV6 - the L322 was never fitted with a V6.

It will most likely be a Td6, with the even more troublesome GM5 box.....as they kept that box until late 2006 (2007MY)......

oh ok so guessing its advisable to stay away from the car?

Kamb said:

oh ok so guessing its advisable to stay away from the car?

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If it has good history that shows the gearbox has been rebuilt, replaced or etc....then maybe it is worth a look....but the only way to stave off trouble with the GM5 box is to have it rebuilt with a replacement torque converter and have the valve block changed for the uprated Sonnax version....then you are on to a winner!

what rough cost to rebuild the gearbox and torque converter??

Kamb said:

petrol be £££££ for me to run lol as buying two 4x4 one RR and one Cayenne

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Petrol on LPG?

Kamb said:

what rough cost to rebuild the gearbox and torque converter??

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Depends if you do it yourself. If you're paying someone else then thousands.

Grrrrrr said:

Petrol on LPG?

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well i mean have to find a lpg one else cost of conversion

Kamb said:

well i mean have to find a lpg one else cost of conversion

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Probably cheaper to convert to LPG than fix that GM box!

Saint is the man on the L322, him and @holidaychicken. @gold rover must have replaced most of hers so she'll know the costs!

Kamb said:

So I have located a 2006 RR Vogue
Is there a way of finding out if its built with the dodgy ZF gearbox?
only have the reg number

are there any other things I need to look out for when buying
- intercooler pipes
- egr issues
- corrosion
- air suspension
- lights on dash


my friend has offered to give me his diagnostic reader from his garage where is the OBD port located

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Water screwing the electronics in the NS rear quarter should be added to your list.

Grrrrrr said:

Probably cheaper to convert to LPG than fix that GM box!

Saint is the man on the L322, him and @holidaychicken. @gold rover must have replaced most of hers so she'll know the costs!

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great ill await for the guys to advise of costs before i stop considering the RR

guys am i correct in assuming then that the 4.2 or 4.4 v8 petrol engines dont have issues to worry about regarding the gearbox?

if so i will look at petrol version

Kamb said:

guys am i correct in assuming then that the 4.2 or 4.4 v8 petrol engines dont have issues to worry about regarding the gearbox?

if so i will look at petrol version

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Gearbox is OK but they have VANOS problems with the engine, look at Saint V8's posts, plus all the electronic problems.

The Supercharged 4.2 doesn't suffer as badly with gearbox issues as it uses a newer, stronger ZF6 box - but without regular servicing, is prone to fail as everything else! But there are issues with LPG'ing a Jag derived AJV8.

Rebuild of a GM5 box with new valve block and torque converter is in the £2000+ range.

The M62TUB44 4.4 V8 of the 2002 - 2005 range LPG's well, but the gearbox is still a weak point - nowhere near as bad as the GM5 but in Land Rover/BMW's infinite wisdom (and to a degree ZF's - but they then changed their stance on it) they said it was a lifetime fill and servicing not required - ha ha ha - whatever!!

ZF now advocate changing gearbox fluid every 50-60k miles.....and this will prolong the life of the ZF5 box and there are reports of high milers on original boxes - but they will fail eventually.

An L322 Range Rover is not for the faint of heart and do not try and run one on a budget.....

saintV8 thanks for this think i may consider a Q7, Toureg or M class instead as they seem a little less problematic

i will keep you guys posted