almost hope no-one can help but....

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cheers for the input guys, im still looking around, would like full external if i can afford it.
if i go full external should i be able to tip it on its side to work on the under belly?? and will a full cage take a few rolls? or is it more a 1 hit life saver type thing?

DTd5 would u have any pics of the new cage? think i may go down the same route

Won't tipping it on it's side mix the oil and water?:confused:
 
Nice and easy tho wouldn't it. I tend to service it every 6 months somi could save any major work for then. Drain it down, tip it over, do what I gotta do, tip it back and fill it up. Spot on. Like it
 
Yeh, Ive seen that done before...


a matress on the floor next to the Landy, tip it on its side to work on it and then tip back up.
 
[JP];1302132 said:
Yeh, Ive seen that done before...


a matress on the floor next to the Landy, tip it on its side to work on it and then tip back up.

who needs a matress?:eek::eek::eek:

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Just drain everything before doing it and he'll be fine :)

There was a (clearly spoily brat) kid at Driffield who had had his defender re-built after a roll - he had a full cage, so whilst drunk, they all thought it would be funny to put it on its side. So they did, then couldn't work out why it wouldn't start again when they tipped it back again.

I don't think anyone could be bothered with them to explain... i'm sure his daddy would pay a garage to recover + fix it for him :rolleyes:
 
reminds me of a conversation at work the other week:
"i need a new wing mirror for me van"
"whys that then?"
"van fell on it"
 
I agree with the earlier comments about harnesses,Ive never rolled but have had harnesses before,They locate you in the seat and help you keep your feet on the pedals when its really bouncy! :D
The other thing is that whatever cage or harness you may have it will not save injury if there is heavy unsecured kit in the vehicle which will fly around in the event of rollover! :eek: A hi-lift jack would hurt if it landed on your head!
 
The other thing is that whatever cage or harness you may have it will not save injury if there is heavy unsecured kit in the vehicle which will fly around in the event of rollover! :eek: A hi-lift jack would hurt if it landed on your head!

Very good point that. Not a major issue for me as i have a truck cab, but, i maybe should put a catch on the cubby box, would have my DSLR to come out in a roll and hit the roof. Wouldn't have anything to take photos of when i crawl out and have an upside down landy!
 
the cage isnt or is a one spot life saver as you put it, it should be ok after a light roll, (ive rolled mine on more than one occasion, a couple of time slightley harder impact and its fine) but after a high speed roll or something with extreem forces its probably useless, i allways chack the cage after a roll to make sure theres no cracks in the tube (it happens), mine has no roof, just a cage so its quite important... a cage is well worth the money! they can be a real life saver!
 
Be careful a "full external cage" is not a saftey cage unless it has all support braces and welded directly to the chassis using spreade plates and or bolted with correct bolts (not fully threaded "bolts") . Alot of companies and alot of smaller firms that should know better kit car people especially, aswell as Whitbread offroad external cages are one serious hit and have no real strength to them.Whitbread will do a msa certified cage internal/external and it will be suberb quite cheap ish and competition legal. you will lose load space by design these are strong. Anyone telling you that you Need CDS is full of bollix yes there is a material spec and blueband/redband steam barrell seemed (if built correctly to spec) is just fine for competition cages.
 
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