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Just like TRIGGERS broom!
wattfield said:
It's a strange situation when you can replace every single part of a vehicle at the same time, except the V5, and still call it the same vehicle! Mind you, is that any different from gradually replacing bits as they break or wear out over 20 or 30 years?
I'm too close to drunk to figure this out!
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Is it just me that keeps thinking about Trigger's broom from Only Fools and Horses when reading this thread?

Trigger And that's what I've done. Maintained it for 20 years. This old broom's had 17 new heads and 14 new handles in its time.
Sid How the hell can it be the same bloody broom then?
Trigger Theres the picture. What more proof do you need?
 
Dan_Trials said:
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can you still get this, I remember big party cans of it in the 70's and some cheesy ads on tv
 
Replacing a chassis, or, indeed any other part, like for like, has nothing to do with the points system. Its when alterations from the original occur that you get info the points. Swapping engine mounts (for a different engine) so far as I'm aware is a cost as to the engine points, but not the chassis points.

I've not read every post in the thread, but I think the op has been overly 'open'.

Its the original vehicle, with a replacement chassis (same as many landrovers). The v5 from the original should apply.

Where the other like for like parts came from is noons business (excepting theft, of course, but that's no more relevant here than anywhere else)


I spoke.with Richards the other day - they are no longer allowed to stamp chassis to the owners requirements, so advised keeping the invoice from them, and either stamping the replacement themselves, and, or, cutting the old ID from the original and keeping it in the car.
 
Vehicle type approval
You’ll have to get type approval if your vehicle doesn’t qualify to keep its original registration number.

Keep a vehicle’s original registration number
A rebuilt vehicle can keep its original registration number if you can prove you’ve used:

  • the original unmodified chassis or bodyshell (car or light van)
  • a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original (car or light van
You must also have 2 other major components from the original vehicle from the following lists.

For cars or light vans:

  • suspension (front and back)
  • steering assembly
  • axles (both)
  • transmission
  • engine

Get a Q registration number
DVLA will give your vehicle a ‘Q’ prefix registration number if you don’t meet the conditions for keeping the original registration number.

Your vehicle must pass the relevant type approval test to get a Q registration number.
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It would strongly appear that this seized vehicle does not conform to the requirements to keep its original registration number.

Therefore it should be on a Q plate as the actual age of the vehicle is difficult to determine.

Has it past the relevant type approval test??


Just because there are other 'bitsa' vehicles on the UK roads does not mean they are fully legal, just means they have not been pulled yet!

Brendan
 
julianf said:
Replacing a chassis, or, indeed any other part, like for like, has nothing to do with the points system. Its when alterations from the original occur that you get info the points. Swapping engine mounts (for a different engine) so far as I'm aware is a cost as to the engine points, but not the chassis points.

I've not read every post in the thread, but I think the op has been overly 'open'.

Its the original vehicle, with a replacement chassis (same as many landrovers). The v5 from the original should apply.

Where the other like for like parts came from is noons business (excepting theft, of course, but that's no more relevant here than anywhere else)


I spoke.with Richards the other day - they are no longer allowed to stamp chassis to the owners requirements, so advised keeping the invoice from them, and either stamping the replacement themselves, and, or, cutting the old ID from the original and keeping it in the car.
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He used a chassis built to the specification of a TDCI Defender, that's why he needed to change the engine mounts to retain the original engine, so technically the chassis isn't like for like.
 
This reminds me of a motorbike I side to own. I bought it bog std in 1998, and changed virtually every single part for ex British superbike parts over the next 8 to 10 yrs. In the end all that was left of the original bike was the frame, head races some of the wiring and some bolts.
I did think at one point of swapping the frame for a zx7rr one I got which was ex race so had no numbers and stamping it with mine. But changed my mind incase it left me in the same position as the OP is in now.
 
Dan_Trials said:
He used a chassis built to the specification of a TDCI Defender, that's why he needed to change the engine mounts to retain the original engine, so technically the chassis isn't like for like.
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sounds grey to me.

afaik, either richards or marsland galvs brand new chassis from lr and have the td5 rear xmember. are all there chassis illegal?

it sounds like the op has done nothing wrong. i'd go back and check you have enough points.. and next time don't go telling everyone.. as they aren't experts and this will happen.

'oh it's galved chassis' 'yup the old one was rotten, as it was 20+ years old, so i had it replaced' and don't offer anymore
 
trax said:
sounds grey to me.

afaik, either richards or marsland galvs brand new chassis from lr and have the td5 rear xmember. are all there chassis illegal?

it sounds like the op has done nothing wrong. i'd go back and check you have enough points.. and next time don't go telling everyone.. as they aren't experts and this will happen.

'oh it's galved chassis' 'yup the old one was rotten, as it was 20+ years old, so i had it replaced' and don't offer anymore
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I suppose strictly speaking yes, but if you had an invoice to prove you bought what is being sold as a chassis for a 1995 300TDi Defender from a reputable and long established seller I'd think you'd have more chance with plod/investigator types than buying a chassis off ebay sold for a 2000's vehicle then modifying it to suit an 80's vehicle which goes by a slightly different model name (Ninety rather than Defender 90).

I too agree he has done nothing wrong intentionally but there are a few things he could have done different, put it that way.
 
Lh90tdi said:
The chassis I was told was a genuine new chassis, where the number was supposed to be was just flat like it had never been stamped and there were no signs of any type of grinding, the seller is still on eBay now with these chassis advertised for 90 and 110 land rovers.
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trax said:
sounds grey to me.

afaik, either richards or marsland galvs brand new chassis from lr and have the td5 rear xmember. are all there chassis illegal?

it sounds like the op has done nothing wrong. i'd go back and check you have enough points.. and next time don't go telling everyone.. as they aren't experts and this will happen.

'oh it's galved chassis' 'yup the old one was rotten, as it was 20+ years old, so i had it replaced' and don't offer anymore
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what he did wrong was not keeping the section of old chassis with the vin to match the V5
 
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