Aaron's 90 rebuild (Round 2)

sp00k · Jun 30, 2014

For your hydraulics, it might help if you find a local small firm. After searching the net recently for an unusual fitting and ringing around all over the place, I eventually found a place a couple of miles away that supplied the part on a Sat morning for the grand total of £1!

aaronmorris · Jun 30, 2014

sp00k said:
I was only asking about the airbox because it looks tight in the engine bay. I was wondering what sort of box would have been with the engine when it was in the lorry - maybe that would be suitable.

In terms of cooling, are you thinking of a big rad like the TD had (with oil cooler) and separate intercooler or std 200 tdi.

No it's actually a good question, Sticking a K&N on is the easy option. I've got a couple of different air boxes here, So I'll give them all a try.

I never got the Daf one so that's out of the window, Although I'm sure they're huge anyway.

No need for oil cooler, But the rad is something I've had trouble making decisions on.
I'd have liked to fit a full width TD rad, But that means to pipe the intercooler up I'd have to drill a 3" hole in the side of each wing for the pipe work. (I know you wont see it but I don't really want to do it)

So my plan was to keep the 200 rad pack, Remove the intercooler and move rad to the middle, Leaving plenty of room each side for intercooler pipework.

Or today I found a Td5 rad/intercooler in the shed. I'm thinking that'd be slightly better than a 200rad as it's slightly bigger.

The other option I had is to not run an intercooler and have a full width rad. But that idea soon went out of the window.

sp00k · Jun 30, 2014

So the original setup does not use an oil cooler at all? Maybe another option would be a full width rad (without oil cooler), 2.5NA style and a top mounted intercooler with a scoop like ebbadger here http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/what-have-you-done-your-landie-today-62254-2532.html .

Seemed to work well on my WRX back in the day!

aaronmorris · Jun 30, 2014

sp00k said:
So the original setup does not use an oil cooler at all? Maybe another option would be a full width rad (without oil cooler), 2.5NA style and a top mounted intercooler with a scoop like ebbadger here http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f16/what-have-you-done-your-landie-today-62254-2532.html .

Seemed to work well on my WRX back in the day!

I think the oil cooler is built in to the engine (somewhere) Their isn't a physical external cooler.

To be fair it doesn't mater if the rad has an oil cooler as I'll just blank them off.

Not sure how much room I have between the top of the engine and the bonnet, But I'll stick it on and check.

I'm thinking td5 rad/intercooler pack is a decent compromise. Will offer it up tomorrow I think

Thor1950 · Jun 30, 2014

You will need the biggest radiator you can fit. That cummins is twice the motor of any land rover and will need all the cooling it can get. Don't think a land rover rad will be enough.

Thor1950 · Jun 30, 2014

aaronmorris said:
I think the oil cooler is built in to the engine (somewhere) Their isn't a physical external cooler.

To be fair it doesn't mater if the rad has an oil cooler as I'll just blank them off.

Not sure how much room I have between the top of the engine and the bonnet, But I'll stick it on and check.

I'm thinking td5 rad/intercooler pack is a decent compromise. Will offer it up tomorrow I think

Engine oil cooler looks like this, sat in/on engine I believe

http://img.weiku.com/waterpicture/2...iesel_lub_oil_cooler_634553908173954101_4.JPG

aaronmorris · Jun 30, 2014

Thor1950 said:
You will need the biggest radiator you can fit. That cummins is twice the motor of any land rover and will need all the cooling it can get. Don't think a land rover rad will be enough.

I do agree, A custom rad would be nice, But that isn't going to happen yet.

Thor1950 said:
Engine oil cooler looks like this, sat in/on engine I believe

http://img.weiku.com/waterpicture/2...iesel_lub_oil_cooler_634553908173954101_4.JPG

Yep, That's the bit I thought it was

Obviously looks different from the outside, But know the shape.

sp00k · Jun 30, 2014

Thor1950 said:
Engine oil cooler looks like this, sat in/on engine I believe

http://img.weiku.com/waterpicture/2...iesel_lub_oil_cooler_634553908173954101_4.JPG

Cheers.

Thor1950 said:
You will need the biggest radiator you can fit. That cummins is twice the motor of any land rover and will need all the cooling it can get. Don't think a land rover rad will be enough.

It's not going to work very hard pulling a 90 around though - it's a bit different to a skip wagon or a bus! Will probably struggle to get up to temperature.

Thor1950 · Jun 30, 2014

aaronmorris said:
I do agree, A custom rad would be nice, But that isn't going to happen yet.

Yep, That's the bit I thought it was
Obviously looks different from the outside, But know the shape.

measure the space you have and then go to a place that might scrap out lorries or farm tractors. dont worry about the mounts on the rad, just make ones to fit the project

aaronmorris · Jun 30, 2014

sp00k said:
Cheers.

It's not going to work very hard pulling a 90 around though - it's a bit different to a skip wagon or a bus! Will probably struggle to get up to temperature.

Exactly

But still, The bigger the better.

Thor1950 said:
measure the space you have and then go to a place that might scrap out lorries or farm tractors. dont worry about the mounts on the rad, just make ones to fit the project

Well I've got 3 good rads here, A full width td one, A 200tdi, and a td5 rad.
So it'll be having one of them.
If it doesn't cool it enough then I'll swap it out for something bigger.
For me everything is trial and error, Theirs no set way to do it and only time is going to tell how it'll last

Bennehboy · Jun 30, 2014

Dr_evil said:
This is how you snorkel a 110 6bt

Pretty sure I passed this on the M60 2 weeks ago in my wife's gaylander, driver just smiled at me

Dr_evil · Jun 30, 2014

Bennehboy said:
Pretty sure I passed this on the M60 2 weeks ago in my wife's gaylander, driver just smiled at me

Theres some videos of it on youtube, sounds mean

Bennehboy · Jun 30, 2014

It sounded pretty damned good on the M60 doing 80mph.

aaronmorris · Jun 30, 2014

I posted a video of that a few pages back, Sounds immense

Just love that cummins sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0B5e6ECNc

Thor1950 · Jun 30, 2014

aaronmorris said:
Exactly But still, The bigger the better.

Well I've got 3 good rads here, A full width td one, A 200tdi, and a td5 rad.
So it'll be having one of them.
If it doesn't cool it enough then I'll swap it out for something bigger.
For me everything is trial and error, Theirs no set way to do it and only time is going to tell how it'll last

better put a locker in the rear diff, otherwise you will burn one tyre off on take off.....:lol::lol:

alexr · Jul 1, 2014

Dr_evil said:
This is how you snorkel a 110 6bt

That's pornography right there mmmmmm

Jam1 · Jul 1, 2014

Have you got the original rad that came with it?

aaronmorris · Jul 1, 2014

Jam1 said:
Have you got the original rad that came with it?

Yep, And the intercooler, But their both f*cking huge and won't fit

wilko1988 · Jul 1, 2014

Wow top stuff mate, just spent the whole day looking through this feed in between work. Keep it up!!

Bennehboy · Jul 1, 2014

I've just witnessed the 6BT in person, it's monstrous, can't wait to see it running.

Cheers for the borrow of the crane Aaron, top bloke!

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