Scarce I'd say.....but can happen as you can attest.Refurbishing and testing sounds like a good option if the price is good too. It's a bit of a worry though given an injector going faulty looks like it caused this problem. Please tell me I'm being soft and the chances of it happening again are scarce.
id buy new valves and get seats cut,. cost of valve is the same as getting valve groundPhew!
I've accepted that the crank nut has defeated me this weekend.
The improvised pulley holding tool just wasn't up to the job.
It's a length of shelf holding angle with two holes drilled through to take M8 bolts (tried one bolt first - no way good enough). The shelf angle went down to the garage floor to brace the pulley. Seemed like a great idea at the time. I'd bought the right sized socket so thought I was laughing. Shocking the socket via the extension bar (not ratchet) did get me anywhere, so I tried the breaker bar. This just bent the bolts.
I'll buy a proper holding tool. Looking at this EBAY LINKY There's a more expensive one similar to the one Saint.V8 made, but that should work won't it? Anyone tried one of those?
I presume the bolt will be loctited in too?
Before packing up I thought I'd investigate the head where number 4 cylinder was running hot.
There's a fair bit of piston alloy deposited on the surface of the valves.
Took the valves out.
Exhaust on the left inlet on the right.
A picture of the seats.
I could feel a tiny bit of movement of the valves in the guides. I suppose this is to be expected at 180K
What would be my best way forward. New valve guides and get the seat machined? How much machining can be done on the seats? I know I could get some grinding paste and use the valve, but don't know if this will be enough?
the fault is most commonly a nozzle ,new ones gives you a good chance of long lifeRefurbishing and testing sounds like a good option if the price is good too. It's a bit of a worry though given an injector going faulty looks like it caused this problem. Please tell me I'm being soft and the chances of it happening again are scarce.
That sounds interesting.I've just replaced the injectors in my 300Tdi with recon from LR Direct in Liverpool. list price was £35 each - they even come with new copper washers.. but they did me a deal for buying four....and they came next day...
There's a place near me that does injectors, but no service exchange or outright - so now I have some they can "play" with - I'll send em in, and then swap SWMBO's injectors too.
IIRC - the service interval for injectors is 100K, and mine had done 190K (!!) - so I figured it was about time.... hardly surprising but its now much quieter, and seems to use even less fuel than before - so deffo worth it.
That sounds interesting.
I've looked on LR DIrect (item number ERR3339) Just list new ones at £125.75 each for the Bosch ones. Do you have a part number for the refurbished ones. Are they OEM refurbished units?
. As in wrong supplier . Sorry. ( its the drugs, man )
Well, that will be my fault for telling you the wrong info
Try this link:-
http://www.lrparts.net/set-of-four-injectors-for-defender-and-discovery-300tdi-oe-reconditioned.html
The ones they sent me are refurbed Bosch.
I have used both Elring and Payen both with good results....admitedly the Payen were on the V8's and Elring on the 200 and 300Tdi's we have owned.....so can't comment on Payen on Diesels or Elring on V8's....Just realised that is about as much help as a waterproof teabag in a chocolate pot....I'm trying to work out all the bits I'm going to need to try and buy them in advance. Forward planning! The Mrs would be impressed
I'm looking at the bottom and top gasket sets on Turners. Is it worth getting these sets or buying separate? Turners sell Elring, which I know are good. Paddocks sell Payen, which are still OEM, but cheaper. Are Payen good quality, should I buy separate. I think the top end set looks like it includes valve stem seals.
Ha, ha.
Last timing belt kits I bought were from paddocks - Dayco belt and Sh*tpart tensioner and idler and timing case gasket. (£42) Done both ours - no problems.... yet
http://www.paddockspares.com/timingkit300l-timing-belt-kit-300tdi-later-type.html
( not sure if this is the right kit for yours !! )
You've spent more on your engine so far than I spent on my entire discovery including its 12 months motPistons STC2982 Turner's £55.80
Bearing set -Mains STC3395 Turner's £27.00
Bearing set -Conrods RTC2993 Turner's £23.40
Inlet valve ERR3777 Turner's £5.70
Exhaust valve ERR1156 Turner's £5.70
valve guides LGJ100880 Turner's £2.38
valve stem seals (in top set gasket kit?)
valve springs ERR4640 Turner's £3.34
cylinder head gasket Turner's £16.82
Cylinder head bolts Turner's £30.00
oil pick up O ring
Spigot bush LFB500050 Turner's £2.34
Fuel Injectors ERR3339 reconditioned £175
Crank shaft O ring ERR4710 Turner's £4.55
valve caps LJC100270 Turner's £19.08
core plug ERC 4996 Turner's £0.89
gasket set top (Elring) STC2802 Turner's £42.00
gasket set bottom (Elring) STC2801 Turner's £50.54
Rear oil seal LUF100430 Turner's £42.30
Timing cover gasket ERR7293 Turner's £12.80
Timing belt kit where from ?
Aux Drive Belt ERR5911 Turner's £15.05
This lot comes to £737 so far. I know there will be other seals, O rings, thrust bearings etc that I will need. Just need to identify them!
i wouldnt do the valve guides or swap valve seats unless they are truly worn out, which i doubt yours are ,are turners refurbing your headPistons STC2982 Turner's £55.80
Bearing set -Mains STC3395 Turner's £27.00
Bearing set -Conrods RTC2993 Turner's £23.40
Inlet valve ERR3777 Turner's £5.70
Exhaust valve ERR1156 Turner's £5.70
valve guides LGJ100880 Turner's £2.38
valve stem seals (in top set gasket kit?)
valve springs ERR4640 Turner's £3.34
cylinder head gasket Turner's £16.82
Cylinder head bolts Turner's £30.00
oil pick up O ring
Spigot bush LFB500050 Turner's £2.34
Fuel Injectors ERR3339 reconditioned £175
Crank shaft O ring ERR4710 Turner's £4.55
valve caps LJC100270 Turner's £19.08
core plug ERC 4996 Turner's £0.89
gasket set top (Elring) STC2802 Turner's £42.00
gasket set bottom (Elring) STC2801 Turner's £50.54
Rear oil seal LUF100430 Turner's £42.30
Timing cover gasket ERR7293 Turner's £12.80
Timing belt kit where from ?
Aux Drive Belt ERR5911 Turner's £15.05
This lot comes to £737 so far. I know there will be other seals, O rings, thrust bearings etc that I will need. Just need to identify them!
Do you mean on the engine build? Haven't spent that yet, but I'm not going to be able to avoid it. I could do it cheaper with Britpart stuff.You've spent more on your engine so far than I spent on my entire discovery including its 12 months mot
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