WTF is that Dave?

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ferk me, **** storm in a tea cup :eek:

not gonna reply individually, cos I cant be arsed.
my opinions are just that. mine. apologies if anyone takes offence, none is intended.

re. work and time for dave, summed up below.

a Friday night laning trip in Holmfirth.
first time I met dave an sarah. about 14 other motors.
didn't pay a lot of attention as it was dark.
do know that maddog spent a chunk of time trying to get the bonnet to shut correctly. (15 mins if you want a figure)

a Saturday laning recce for sue's laning weekend.
me, sue and sarah. bit more time for sociableness. (talking, but I don't do girl talk)
had a browse round dave, mainly cos I could see the unclipped brake pipe running across the rear axle.
became apparent that things weren't all as they seemed.

the following Wednesday night, at the workshop. invited sarah across for an inspection. (insert sexual innuendo here).

sue also present due to being a friend, and I didn't want to be in the shop on a one to one basis with sarah, as I didn't know her, didn't want anything being misconstrued, and I thought sarah would be more at ease with another female there.

was initially going to write all the anomalies down, but it became easier to photo them.
anomaly photo'ing- about an hour, interspersed with talking.
addressing the steering and swivels, which I considered unsafe-
labour, 4 hours ish
parts, 2x second hand radius arm washers,
2x brand new prop nuts and bolts,
1x brand new track rod end.

later in the week-
phone conversation with the dealer. they rang me. 10 mins. ish

a Friday-
16 mile round trip to the dealer, hours meeting for all concerned.

Saturday-
hour at an mot testing station of my choice

Monday-
dropped dave off for the agreed "couple of days work"
Tuesday-
called at dealers at their invite. sarah not present.
Thursday-
called at dealers with trailer. sarah not present. (coincidence I had trailer)
Tuesday-
collected dave with sarah.
Wednesday-
hours retest at testing station.

don't know how much time the dealer has in it during the 9 days it
was there.
parts included all the mot failures addressing,
some non mot anomalies addressing,
a new donut,
2x brand new swivels and associated parts to rebuild,
a full polybush kit which wasn't asked for.

last Monday night-
cb fitting by sue and sarah, guidance from me while I sorted summat else.
an issue with a suspected flat battery that is documented on the "wtf is that dave" thead. 2 hour.

Tuesday-
3 hour on the flat battery saga.
1 hour delivering dave back to sarah.

an electrical fault that became apparent at sarah's place, to be addressed.

my terms and conditions.
I don't end up out of pocket for materials used.
I browse lz, and choose who I offer to help. posters attitudes are a deciding factor.
I will assist friends, or friends of friends where I can.
if I want payment I will tell you beforehand.
a crate of Guinness is compulsory in most cases.
I am a home owner, married with a 5 year old son and as such, sexual favours will not be accepted.
the workshop is in my name, funded by a group of like minded individuals, available for use by invite only. separate terms and condition apply, by discussion on invite.

I posted on this thread, to highlight that ****s rolled in glitter can be bought from dealers as well as private sales.
its unfortunate it happened, but this one's in my area, and i'll do what I can to assist.

only quote worth looking back for, and the latter part particulary applicable in my opinion.
take someone with you, if you don't know what your looking at.

Originally Posted by Chr1s View Post
I'm not so interested in terms of the financial cost but a list of parts and labour (in hours) would be very interesting and would certainly serve as a warning to anyone buying a second hand Defender to be aware that everything is not always what it seems.



cheers.
bring on the Guinness.
 
nrgserv said:
ferk me, **** storm in a tea cup :eek:

not gonna reply individually, cos I cant be arsed.
my opinions are just that. mine. apologies if anyone takes offence, none is intended.

re. work and time for dave, summed up below.

a Friday night laning trip in Holmfirth.
first time I met dave an sarah. about 14 other motors.
didn't pay a lot of attention as it was dark.
do know that maddog spent a chunk of time trying to get the bonnet to shut correctly. (15 mins if you want a figure)

a Saturday laning recce for sue's laning weekend.
me, sue and sarah. bit more time for sociableness. (talking, but I don't do girl talk)
had a browse round dave, mainly cos I could see the unclipped brake pipe running across the rear axle.
became apparent that things weren't all as they seemed.

the following Wednesday night, at the workshop. invited sarah across for an inspection. (insert sexual innuendo here).

sue also present due to being a friend, and I didn't want to be in the shop on a one to one basis with sarah, as I didn't know her, didn't want anything being misconstrued, and I thought sarah would be more at ease with another female there.

was initially going to write all the anomalies down, but it became easier to photo them.
anomaly photo'ing- about an hour, interspersed with talking.
addressing the steering and swivels, which I considered unsafe-
labour, 4 hours ish
parts, 2x second hand radius arm washers,
2x brand new prop nuts and bolts,
1x brand new track rod end.

later in the week-
phone conversation with the dealer. they rang me. 10 mins. ish

a Friday-
16 mile round trip to the dealer, hours meeting for all concerned.

Saturday-
hour at an mot testing station of my choice

Monday-
dropped dave off for the agreed "couple of days work"
Tuesday-
called at dealers at their invite. sarah not present.
Thursday-
called at dealers with trailer. sarah not present. (coincidence I had trailer)
Tuesday-
collected dave with sarah.
Wednesday-
hours retest at testing station.

don't know how much time the dealer has in it during the 9 days it
was there.
parts included all the mot failures addressing,
some non mot anomalies addressing,
a new donut,
2x brand new swivels and associated parts to rebuild,
a full polybush kit which wasn't asked for.

last Monday night-
cb fitting by sue and sarah, guidance from me while I sorted summat else.
an issue with a suspected flat battery that is documented on the "wtf is that dave" thead. 2 hour.

Tuesday-
3 hour on the flat battery saga.
1 hour delivering dave back to sarah.

an electrical fault that became apparent at sarah's place, to be addressed.

my terms and conditions.
I don't end up out of pocket for materials used.
I browse lz, and choose who I offer to help. posters attitudes are a deciding factor.
I will assist friends, or friends of friends where I can.
if I want payment I will tell you beforehand.
a crate of Guinness is compulsory in most cases.
I am a home owner, married with a 5 year old son and as such, sexual favours will not be accepted.
the workshop is in my name, funded by a group of like minded individuals, available for use by invite only. separate terms and condition apply, by discussion on invite.

I posted on this thread, to highlight that ****s rolled in glitter can be bought from dealers as well as private sales.
its unfortunate it happened, but this one's in my area, and i'll do what I can to assist.

only quote worth looking back for, and the latter part particulary applicable in my opinion.
take someone with you, if you don't know what your looking at.

Originally Posted by Chr1s View Post
I'm not so interested in terms of the financial cost but a list of parts and labour (in hours) would be very interesting and would certainly serve as a warning to anyone buying a second hand Defender to be aware that everything is not always what it seems.



cheers.
bring on the Guinness.
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Good man! Thank you for taking the time to write all of that!

I now feel particularly fortunate that I got away with the very spontaneous, and not at all informed, purchase of my 90.
 
Thank for that Neil- that was what i was after to get an understanding - your photos ,whilst great Im sure, are a bit meaningless to me as I dont know if something is a two minute job, a two hr job or even two day job.

Despite all who believe to the contrary and for whom no explanation will suffice:( - all I wanted to understand was how bad a state Dave was in - in the only terms I know - garage costs and hours
 
Brilliant post Neil, they should make you a Mod on here :D

Hang my head in shame for clogging this up with rubbish :eek:

However I do think the last couple of pages about cake and Guinness deserve to stay :p
 
110woman said:
Thank for that Neil- that was what i was after to get an understanding - your photos ,whilst great Im sure, are a bit meaningless to me as I dont know if something is a two minute job, a two hr job or even two day job.

Despite all who believe to the contrary and for whom no explanation will suffice:( - all I wanted to understand was how bad a state Dave was in - in the only terms I know - garage costs and hours
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while initially I read your comment the same as sue, (and I know it upset sarah), the second time I read it, it didn't seem as bad.

I really wanted to do this as a rolling saga, but the intricacies of the situation with the dealer prevented it. hence why I was a bit vague in saying things like "progress is happening".
the dealers weren't impressed that its gone on the internet, and made this known. on the flip side, I weren't impressed that a motor in the condition it was got sold to someone who didn't know. the fact that sarah's female is irrelevant as far as i'm concerned.
anything we could get sorted by the dealer means less outlay for the purchaser, who already spent money buying it initially.

while a lot of stuff got sorted by the dealer, as sarah says she's gonna have to take it on the chin. there's gonna be other stuff, we'll update where practical, if you wanna stay, keep listening. if yer wanna coffee, pop into the workshop.
 
suew said:
Brilliant post Neil, they should make you a Mod on here :D

Hang my head in shame for clogging this up with rubbish :eek:

However I do think the last couple of pages about cake and Guinness deserve to stay :p
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Cake and Guinness (+token jack Daniels) save most things :D

Neil, you are obviously a superhero!
Consider the pants you buy in future you WILL be wearing them outside your trousers from now on, do you want a wax cape or maybe a thinsulate Kevlar affair? :D
 
Forgottenpoppy said:
Cake and Guinness (+token jack Daniels) save most things :D

Neil, you are obviously a superhero!
Consider the pants you buy in future you WILL be wearing them outside your trousers from now on, do you want a wax cape or maybe a thinsulate Kevlar affair? :D
Click to expand...

:nopics:
 
110woman said:
Thank for that Neil- that was what i was after to get an understanding - your photos ,whilst great Im sure, are a bit meaningless to me as I dont know if something is a two minute job, a two hr job or even two day job.

Despite all who believe to the contrary and for whom no explanation will suffice:( - all I wanted to understand was how bad a state Dave was in - in the only terms I know - garage costs and hours
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unfortunately, that's where most places make their money.

suew said:
Brilliant post Neil, they should make you a Mod on here :D

Hang my head in shame for clogging this up with rubbish :eek:

However I do think the last couple of pages about cake and Guinness deserve to stay :p
Click to expand...
cheers, no,
used to your rubbish now,
yes.

Forgottenpoppy said:
Cake and Guinness (+token jack Daniels) save most things :D

Neil, you are obviously a superhero!
Consider the pants you buy in future you WILL be wearing them outside your trousers from now on, do you want a wax cape or maybe a thinsulate Kevlar affair? :D
Click to expand...
no.

suew said:
:nopics:
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deffo no!
 
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