Will a diesel Sherpa engine fit? Need quick answers!!

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luggsey said:
MMMM, does the exhaust manifold line up to the existing Landy petrol exhaust? (Presume I can use my existing exhaust?)
I just told the guy I would not have it because it was too different but if it's as you say I'll eat humble pie and email him again.
Also would I be able to fit a "proper" landy front cover??
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just been reading this post ! and yes the 2.5 diesel out of a sherpa fits no probs, JUST AS LONG AS ITS NOT THE PEUGEOT ONE THATS FITTED TO THE LATER LDV SHERPAS, or the ****e 2.5 ford di fitted to the even later ones :D

anyway my last 2 landys have had sherpa / landrover N/As in them mainly because a sherpa vans are so cheep
 
Hi Mark, can u tell me whats required to fit it? one engine mount I'm told, what about the exhaust manifold, does it fit my petrol exhaust?
 
luggsey said:
Hi Mark, can u tell me whats required to fit it? one engine mount I'm told, what about the exhaust manifold, does it fit my petrol exhaust?
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its along time since i did one but iam sure i used the mounts off the petrol engine, the blocks are the same, if think the exhaust fits straight on, saying that it must cause i fitted a petrol manifold on a mates diesel the other week, i take it yours is a petrol ?

its a easy enough job to do, i can do it in a day
 
Thanks Mark, I will have confidence now looking for an engine!
Do you know if I could fit a landy timing cover to waterproof the sherpa engine? Mine is a juicy petrol...
 
luggsey said:
Thanks Mark, I will have confidence now looking for an engine!
Do you know if I could fit a landy timing cover to waterproof the sherpa engine? Mine is a juicy petrol...
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yes they will fit, off a landy diesel that is but i have never bothered and i put mine through hell and back :D
 
Good stuff, I'll have to see if the one I just said I would "not" be having is still for sale! Cheers.
 
I have the sherpa engine in mine, its a 15J with a few small differences, such as the timing belt cover is just a piece of tin, why you would want to change it I don't know as it allows you to do a timing belt change in 30mins.

It is a landrover engine, they just made them like that for sherpa and taxis.
 
discomania said:
I have the sherpa engine in mine, its a 15J with a few small differences, such as the timing belt cover is just a piece of tin, why you would want to change it I don't know as it allows you to do a timing belt change in 30mins.

It is a landrover engine, they just made them like that for sherpa and taxis.
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Mine gets used on the farm here and does got through pretty deep water sometimes, I was told the tin cover lets in water and mud?
 
Cartman why did you bother with the welding mask? That picture if it was you welding in a vest shorts and flip flops made me fall off my chair laughing, brilliant! Made my day. Great info as well Thank you
 
The 2.5 Sherpa "LandRover" engine is ideal.

The front end of the engine is a little different. The injection pump sits higher, it uses a DIFFERENT CAM BELT, and it is a lot less waterproof than the same engine with a LandRover front end.

However, you can change the cam belt in less than an hour without taking off the waterpump. Just take off trhe crankshaft pulley, and the tin plate cover swings clean off and out of the way.

Great engine to use as long as you stay out of very deep water.
I fitted one to my Defender 90, which Discomania now runs.
It goes very well.

CharlesY
 
luggsey said:
MMMM, does the exhaust manifold line up to the existing Landy petrol exhaust? (Presume I can use my existing exhaust?)
I just told the guy I would not have it because it was too different but if it's as you say I'll eat humble pie and email him again.
Also would I be able to fit a "proper" landy front cover??
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The Sherpa 2.5 litre engine made by LandRover IS rated a little more power than the 2.5 actual LandRover, the difference being 75 bhp to the Sherpa against 67 for the LR variant.

As he has the old engine, he uses the mountings from that, and it just fits.

There is no need to change the front cover of the engine, but if he does it will need a new timing belt, the LR front cover with waterpump, and heaven knows what, such as injector pipes, as the injection pump sits LOWER on the LR version thatn it does in the Sherpa.

Speak to Discomania - he has my old 90 powered by a Sherpa, and it goes really well.

CharlesY
 
luggsey said:
May have one again soon, I'll let you all know how it goes!
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In which case make sure you save the inlet and exhaust manifolds from your original engine, AND SAVE THE TEMPERATURE GAUGE SENDER!

The Sherpa sender will not work the Defender gauge.
There are various tapped and plugged holes on the top of the head on the rear left side to screw the original sender into. One of them will fit.

Also, as mine wasn't a diesel, I had to play about to arrange fuel pipes and the throttle cable. The engine STOP solenoid was operated by the original live + wire to the coil, and I had to fit a big black button and a Ford Sierra glow plug relay, but none of that will bother you.

My engine was fitted straight in, in place of a 2.5 petrol engine that used fuel like the damned stuff came out of holes in the ground. I reckon it struggled to do 15 miles to a gallon, but it certainly stepped off the mark when my right foot hit the floor. It really was quite a good mover. With the Sherpa diesel 2.5, one has to do a bit of forward planning, and overtaking is not lightly undertaken!

Having said that, that Def 90 with 75 bhp Sherpa engine, and a military hook attached at the rear, quite happily towed an ex army four ton "generator on a trailer" about fifty miles back to my place here. A lot of the trip was done in low range 4th and 5th, but it wasn't a problem, other than we couldn't cruise 70.

The 2.5 Sherpa engine is PURE LandRover with some good features at the front end - like that different cambelt cover, and the higher injection pump. It is easy to get to the belt, and can be done without draining the water.

Once you have it fitted, let me know and I will give you a hint about injection pump timing to make it go a wee bitty better.

CharlesY
 
Cheers for all the good info Charles! What did you do with the electric fuel pump by the tank? Do you leave that one fitted and just change the filter??
There is a small "collection" pot under the bonnet of mine which I presume I remove and connect the flow and return fuel lines to the landy diesel lump?
Heater relay as you say will be no prop as I'm a sparks by trade.. (;-)
Cheers.

BTW my petrol lump sucks fuel like an oil well squirts it! Put the trailer on and measure 10 miles by 1/4 tank!
 
Was this a PETROL Landy?

The electric pump will probably not do the job, so remove it, and go DIESEL.

Just arrange a Fuel OUT from the tank, and a fuel RETURN to the tank.

The engine LIFT PUMP on the block will draw the fuel from the tank and drive it through the filter and to the injection pump. So .... you will need to pick up and fit a diesel fuel filter somewhere, and fit it. The best kind have a priming pump plunger on the filter head. Local scrappy will have plenty.

Yes, get rid of the "small collection pot" and arrange fuel lines.

Remember that the injectors must also be connected to the fuel return line, with a pipe at the last injector going back, usually to the filter head, but just as well to a T-Piece into the pipe going back to the tank.

The heater relay needs to be a biggie - think 70 amps!

Ask Discomania for details of his setup. It was petrol, and now it's a 2.5 Sherpa, just what you are thinking about.

CharlesY
CharlesY
 
CharlesY said:
Was this a PETROL Landy?

The electric pump will probably not do the job, so remove it, and go DIESEL.

Just arrange a Fuel OUT from the tank, and a fuel RETURN to the tank.

The engine LIFT PUMP on the block will draw the fuel from the tank and drive it through the filter and to the injection pump. So .... you will need to pick up and fit a diesel fuel filter somewhere, and fit it. The best kind have a priming pump plunger on the filter head. Local scrappy will have plenty.

Yes, get rid of the "small collection pot" and arrange fuel lines.

Remember that the injectors must also be connected to the fuel return line, with a pipe at the last injector going back, usually to the filter head, but just as well to a T-Piece into the pipe going back to the tank.

The heater relay needs to be a biggie - think 70 amps!

Ask Discomania for details of his setup. It was petrol, and now it's a 2.5 Sherpa, just what you are thinking about.

CharlesY
CharlesY
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Yes it is petrol, I understand now that the tank mounted pump will be U/S so I will have to look at how to remove it.
I'm going to have to find a filter unit for the engine then......and some pipe and joiners etc. Fun!
Thanks for the help, now to see if I can get the lump!
 
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