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It does.. but you can't get different thickness plates, can you? It's already together, need it for Friday, not sure what my options are
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How are you measuring it?It does.. but you can't get different thickness plates, can you? It's already together, need it for Friday, not sure what my options are
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Silly.. stupid question, which way round does the thrust plate go?
I put it in with the flat side to the engine, bolts in the recess
I put it in with the flat side to the engine, bolts in the recess
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Put the gear on, pulled back and forth
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The gems/thor has a "horseshoe" retainer which runs in a groove in the (much shorter) cam nose.
The cam is normally held back by the tappets which are angled very slightly towards the rear of the engine. in some circumstances under a trailing load when the load is suddenly removed from the tappets, they can angle towards the front of the engine allowing the camshaft to slide forwards. At this point, the cam can more forward with interesting results, on earlier engines a Cam button is fitted,
orientation is thus..
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Think you're right, only goes one way. The face to the cam is flat, both the old one and the new one.The gems/thor has a "horseshoe" retainer which runs in a groove in the (much shorter) cam nose.
The cam is normally held back by the tappets which are angled very slightly towards the rear of the engine. in some circumstances under a trailing load when the load is suddenly removed from the tappets, they can angle towards the front of the engine allowing the camshaft to slide forwards. At this point, the cam can more forward with interesting results, on earlier engines a Cam button is fitted,
orientation is thus..
Seem to recall i had a similar issue the last cam i changed, but resolved it, can't remember how!! I didn't need a new thrust plate though
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You'll find a way
Cam retaining plates only come in one size 2 different styles though, the early one on the pre serp motors was round IIRC and the later one is horse shoe shaped.
Attach a suitable DTI to front of cylinder block
Make sure the chain is fitted
Push camshaft rearwards and zero gauge.
Using camshaft gear, pull camshaft
forwards and note end-float reading on gauge.
End-float = 0.05 to 0.35 mm (0.002 to 0.014 in)
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Just remembered!! When you put the thrust plate in place, there's loads of floatYou'll find a way
Cam retaining plates only come in one size 2 different styles though, the early one on the pre serp motors was round IIRC and the later one is horse shoe shaped.
Attach a suitable DTI to front of cylinder block
Make sure the chain is fitted
Push camshaft rearwards and zero gauge.
Using camshaft gear, pull camshaft
forwards and note end-float reading on gauge.
End-float = 0.05 to 0.35 mm (0.002 to 0.014 in)
When you put the gear on and tighten the nut, there's muuuuch less. Didn't measure it though.
Bigger issue, i don't recall if i torqued the thrust plate
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Grrr!!Just remembered!! When you put the thrust plate in place, there's loads of float
When you put the gear on and tighten the nut, there's muuuuch less. Didn't measure it though.
Bigger issue, i don't recall if i torqued the thrust plate
Yes you check the end float with the cam chain/gears attached!
As for the thrust plate bolts I just do them up tight no need to crank them up too much though
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I have to torque most things or i end up doing too tight and breaking something, or too loose and things fall off.Grrr!!
Yes you check the end float with the cam chain/gears attached!
As for the thrust plate bolts I just do them up tight no need to crank them up too much though
I'm working on the basis only a clown would forget to do it
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Yeah, that's pretty much how my lad was conceived except I was in a Defender at the time.
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Would be a tad cramped in a 90 i'd imagine
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Would be a tad cramped in a 90 i'd imagine
By that time we were in a clearing in the sunshine.
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It is too early in the morning to be thinking about that! Bix has always said we should just drop the tailgate for some er.. cuddle room but I'd be constantly paranoid that would be the time the tailgate snaps
I wouldn't want to explain that to A&E...
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Slept on it and decided i need to check the camshaft thrust plate was tightened up!! Hopefully 'just' sump and front cover off!! Slide gear forward slightly to get a spanner on
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I've no time for work!! Green oval is a full time jobWise move.
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But you'll be able to sleep soundly afterwards.I've no time for work!! Green oval is a full time job
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If you dont check it for piece of mind you will for ever be on tender hooks driving it waiting for some thing bad to happen ow hang on its a p38 were always like that
