To swap or not?..that is the Question!

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Going back to the original question: Your problem is you don't have a 110, or much experience of it, so you are thinking of it and it seems the case is "the grass is greener". Truth is, the Disco is a pretty good all rounder, it can kinda 90% effectively (its a bit slower, heavier, etc) do the job of a reasonably comfortable car, and it can 90% or so do the off roading bit that a 110 can do. So its a pretty good compromise.

ALL cars are a compromise, once you factor in the wide range of driving conditions including off roading of various severity, and towing etc.

Buying 2 cars - it gets round the compromise, you have the use of both and can choose one, that particular day. However, if I were to own 2 cars, I'd have them sufficiently different so they can do different things well. 110 and Disco 2 are quite similar, for example compared to a Jag saloon and 110, or a small diesel supermini and a Unimog; or a hot hatch and a Discovery.

Can't really add much more since you've already been given decent advice - try to get an extended test drive of a 110.
 
50 pence said:
The reason I comented on this thread is because I keep hearing how the Defender is the " only real Landrover " and the king off road and that all Disco drivers would rather be driving a Defender.

The OP original question about swapping from a 110 to a Disco seems to have been laughed at as if it was the most ridiculous suggestion ever.

In my opinion, being in farming, I see the Disco as a step up from the Defender !.
( but then I see the Defender as a step up from the tractor !! ).

Del.
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they want a series really :D:D:D
 
Oh and another thing..........110 isn't as good off road as a Disco 2. If it were a 90 vs Disco2, it would be the 90 which is better. But its very marginal and not much in it, all told. Both can do terrain other 4x4s can't, and both can get stuck in daft places etc.
 
My brothers got a 2 year old fender with air con ive recently got a 97 disco 300 doosle ive driven both and i know what i would rather drive and it aint a fender with a/c its cramped noisey it uses more fuel and its slower (compared to my disco). I know my disco would go through 3 foot of snow cos it did just that last winter when i borrowed it for a couple of days.
 
paul_c said:
Oh and another thing..........110 isn't as good off road as a Disco 2. If it were a 90 vs Disco2, it would be the 90 which is better. But its very marginal and not much in it, all told. Both can do terrain other 4x4s can't, and both can get stuck in daft places etc.
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how do you work that one out, a disco 2 has a far lower approach and departure angle than a 110 has less ground clearance due to smaller tyres, is wider so doesnt fit through as tight spaces, the only plus point is a smaller turning circle,
 
johnlad said:
how do you work that one out, a disco 2 has a far lower approach and departure angle than a 110 has less ground clearance due to smaller tyres, is wider so doesnt fit through as tight spaces, the only plus point is a smaller turning circle,
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You're right....I was thinking of a Disco 1 vs 110. I guess Disco 2 is worse than Disco 1 by a fair margin, just based on the vital stats such as approach, ramp breakover and departure angles. Dunno how much effect the traction control or air suspension would compensate, though.
 
paul_c said:
You're right....I was thinking of a Disco 1 vs 110. I guess Disco 2 is worse than Disco 1 by a fair margin, just based on the vital stats such as approach, ramp breakover and departure angles. Dunno how much effect the traction control or air suspension would compensate, though.
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although disco 1 is better than 2 its figures still dont mach the 110 and even disco2 with airsprings fully extended has a departure angle of 25' compared to the 110 's 34.5', also the 110 will carry more be it people or equipment
 
Series71 said:
ahh but yer an essex boy...no 22" rims and sub woofers in a series :D:D:D
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Aint been could a boy for a while :D youd need subs in a series so you could hear the radio over all the other feking noise, but then it probably wouldnt move with the extra weight init any way (no subs in disco either). As for the wheels probably going for 19"s for the summer and my SE wheels for the winter
 
paul_c said:
What about a Disco 1 300TDi van? Best of both worlds or worst of both worlds????
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Depends what you want it for, for me best of both as its for my buisness, i can chuck stuff/tools ect in the back, tow my trailer (which is an absolute pleasure with the disco compared to my transit) and if/when it snows again ill be able to get out of my yard and to my customers (unlike the transit that took one look at the snow and refused to go anywhere)
 
oldskool said:
Depends what you want it for, for me best of both as its for my buisness, i can chuck stuff/tools ect in the back, tow my trailer (which is an absolute pleasure with the disco compared to my transit) and if/when it snows again ill be able to get out of my yard and to my customers (unlike the transit that took one look at the snow and refused to go anywhere)
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No I mean, the comfort of a Disco without the complexity of a higher-spec or later model, so its also as "practical" as a 110.
 
Again in this type of debate the old " approach " and " departure " angles are quoted in a bid to discredit the D2,s right to wear the oval badge.

Lets be honest now, who really finds the " poor " angles of departure/approach on the D2a problem on a day to day basis ?.

Any " working " or " all round " Landrover, be it D90/110, Disco1/2 or any other, will more than likely have a tow bar fitted, and that wipes the departure angle straight out !

All the inclines around our farms have a groove " ploughed out " where the tow bar,s been.

It,ll be interesting to see if Landrovers new owners keep the Defender. It has been reported that it has not been as well recieved in the American markets as the Discovery and Rangerover.

Personally, I think it would be a shame if it stopped being produced. Having said that, these Landrovers will pretty much last forever, so they,ll always be about. ( in their purer form as well ! )

Del.
 
I unbolt the tow bar (at least the bit that sticks down) for serious off roading. Also, for those who do find it a problem, they'll more likely not have chosen a car with long rear overhang in the first place. So long as the towbar isn't sticking down at the end, it isn't a massive issue to make contact with the ground every now and again, but its still a little problem. If you need to reverse, eg come to an impassable section of a track, or something, then it can be a bigger problem.

If the rear overhang wasn't a problem then bobtails wouldn't exist.
 
50 pence said:
Again in this type of debate the old " approach " and " departure " angles are quoted in a bid to discredit the D2,s right to wear the oval badge.

Lets be honest now, who really finds the " poor " angles of departure/approach on the D2a problem on a day to day basis ?.

Any " working " or " all round " Landrover, be it D90/110, Disco1/2 or any other, will more than likely have a tow bar fitted, and that wipes the departure angle straight out !

All the inclines around our farms have a groove " ploughed out " where the tow bar,s been.

It,ll be interesting to see if Landrovers new owners keep the Defender. It has been reported that it has not been as well recieved in the American markets as the Discovery and Rangerover.

Personally, I think it would be a shame if it stopped being produced. Having said that, these Landrovers will pretty much last forever, so they,ll always be about. ( in their purer form as well ! )

Del.
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the statement was'nt to discredit the D2's right to wear the oval badge, if you read the whole thread it was in response to a poster claiming the D2 was better off road than the 110, now not having like for like trials to test them on you have to rely on facts and figures, which is what was done also why would you want to drive your shagpile carpeted leather armchaired D2 through 3' off mud and water, i regularly do that with my 110 just open the door and hose it out to clean, whereas the D2 is more at home on the caravan towing circuit
 
Your right there.

Fortunately we,ve never had the need to drive through 3' of muddy water in either the Defender or the Disco. ( or the MB Trac or the JCB Fastrac ).

I,m sure there are a few people who do need to negotiate these kind of obstacles in their day to day comings and goings, and, off course, the Defender is the perfect vehicle for this.

Del.
 
50 pence said:
Your right there.

Fortunately we,ve never had the need to drive through 3' of muddy water in either the Defender or the Disco. ( or the MB Trac or the JCB Fastrac ).

I,m sure there are a few people who do need to negotiate these kind of obstacles in their day to day comings and goings, and, off course, the Defender is the perfect vehicle for this.

Del.
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yes but still you put the ball back into my court as i am only stating that the origonal poster stated that the D2 was better off road and talking strictly off road the 110 wins again. (why you bring the JCB and MB into it is beyond me ? ) Is it that the 110 masters all these situations that you have 4 vehicles to cover?:D (he serves its an ACE)
 
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