Td4 towing limit

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Glyn Evans

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hi guys I'm new to the forum as I'm looking to get a freelander 2003 2.0td4. I just want to double check the towing limit on one of these, as on parkers it's saying 1800kg and on other websites it's saying 2000kg so not sure. It's just sometimes I pick up cars on a flatbed trailer. So need to know if this is sufficient.
Thanks
 
Most car trailers are rated at 3500kg - well above the rating for the freelander - and it is the trailer rating that VOSA etc will go by.
And, of course, if you are trailering cars for hire or reward...then that is a whole other can of very nasty worms. :D
 
Glyn Evans said:
hi guys I'm new to the forum as I'm looking to get a freelander 2003 2.0td4. I just want to double check the towing limit on one of these, as on parkers it's saying 1800kg and on other websites it's saying 2000kg so not sure. It's just sometimes I pick up cars on a flatbed trailer. So need to know if this is sufficient.
Thanks
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No.

Most twin axle trailers are plated at 2700kg, or 3500kg. And like he says above^^^^^^^^^^^^. For legal purposes the trailer is always considered as fully laden.
 
Just to add to the confusion. The authorities don't know the laws on this.
When bought my Freelander, I had to pull it home on a hired trailer. Would you believe that on that day, Vosa were on the A30 pulling towing vehicle's for checking. I was pulled and the chaps went over my vehicle and the trailer. I was in my D3 with a 1100Kg trailer plated for 3500Kg hung on the back. Then there was a 1700Kg auto Freelander on the trailer. So well under the MTW. The Vosa chap said all he was interested in was the D3 was designed to tow more than the total mass of the trailer. As the total mass of the trailer was ~2800Kgs, he was happy, and didn't really know why the traffic officer even pulled a 3500Kg rated tow vehicle in for checking.
I was also asked why I was towing the Freelander and was it in connection with a business. I said it was a replacement vehicle for me and I was let on my way.
 
Balls, yep forgot that it's the MTPLM of the trailer that matters. As has been said if the trailer is plated for more the 2000kg you're breaking law. Apologies for my misleading post.
 
S1monm said:
Balls, yep forgot that it's the MTPLM of the trailer that matters. As has been said if the trailer is plated for more the 2000kg you're breaking law. Apologies for my misleading post.
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If the authorities don't know the rules, how's anyone else going too. For the record, the Freelander will pull 2000Kgs fine. Although an auto is better than a manual.
 
Nodge68 said:
If the authorities don't know the rules, how's anyone else going too. For the record, the Freelander will pull 2000Kgs fine. Although an auto is better than a manual.
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So they pulled you over - as part of a general check on towing vehicles - and found nothing wrong. In what way is that not knowing the rules? If you had been under-rated for the trailer then you would quite rightly have been done. If you had been correctly rated but towing professionally, then you would have been done. Seems they were doing the job properly.
 
I've towed another Freelander and a 109 SSW (not at same time!) on a transporter trailer with my L Series - it performed well - probably pulled away from the lights just as quick as with just me in the car! Took a bit longer to stop though :)

Both of these events were probably pulling a bit over 2.5T and highly illegal - but the Freelander performed will. Not sure I'd want to pull that sort of weight over long distances or mountains though! I should think the TD4 would be similar to the L Series.
 
i always useto get confused by the towing weights etc and also to include the trailer

if i remember rightly they always recommend 75 % of ur total towing weight

also seems a lot of people forget about not having the required classifications on their licences to tow
 
gstuart said:
i always useto get confused by the towing weights etc and also to include the trailer

if i remember rightly they always recommend 75 % of ur total towing weight

also seems a lot of people forget about not having the required classifications on their licences to tow
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Cattle float weighs 3500 kg, I tow it with a 2000kg Disco. Sometimes I tow it with a 1680kg Ninety. No problem at all if you know what you are doing.

Anyone over about 40 will have the right licence, unless they only just took their test. So many on mine I don't even know what some of them are!
 
Turboman said:
Cattle float weighs 3500 kg, I tow it with a 2000kg Disco. Sometimes I tow it with a 1680kg Ninety. No problem at all if you know what you are doing.

Anyone over about 40 will have the right licence, unless they only just took their test. So many on mine I don't even know what some of them are!
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know what u mean regarding towing , my dad let me tow his caravan a good few years ago it certainally woke me up when braking and feeling the caravan pushing u ,

he also taught me the importance of loading it correctly for the nose weight , speed awareness and just being more aware of what's around u so u don't have to perform emergency stops , etc

i had to look up the letters on my licence , as i didn't know what they were either
 
gstuart said:
know what u mean regarding towing , my dad let me tow his caravan a good few years ago it certainally woke me up when braking and feeling the caravan pushing u ,

he also taught me the importance of loading it correctly for the nose weight , speed awareness and just being more aware of what's around u so u don't have to perform emergency stops , etc

i had to look up the letters on my licence , as i didn't know what they were either
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Yes, some interesting looking ones on there. Little pic of a minibus towing a trailer, mowers, all sorts! :)

If the trailer is pushing the tow vehicle, overrun brakes aren't well adjusted. You should feel the trailer holding the tow vehicle back if the trailer brakes are good.
 
Turboman said:
Yes, some interesting looking ones on there. Little pic of a minibus towing a trailer, mowers, all sorts! :)

If the trailer is pushing the tow vehicle, overrun brakes aren't well adjusted. You should feel the trailer holding the tow vehicle back if the trailer brakes are good.
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yep quite agree , he also put the weight around the caravan effecting the nose weight and how the car handled differently , with a without the stabiliser bar, but know they have a different set up know

but can still make a naff up of the reversing , lol

when i was young he took me in my first artic , they were testing the new anti jackknife systems,or maybe antilock , was some 40 years ago , pretty sure being at croydon airport and the tests were done by i think iveco ,

u can see i have a good memory can't u , not


do remember though whilst snow was on the roads that seemed to go against logic was a hgv going up a slight hill, wheels spinning in the snow and then seeing the trailer unit just swinging right across the motorway

that woke me up rather sharpish
 
Ah yes. I missed some of the conversation I had with Vosa officer. He was asking about where I'd hired the trailer and wondered why I had hired such a large one. I said that was the only trailer that was available, and luckily I had Discovery designed for 3500Kgs. He said that he was only interested in the actual trailer mass. Not it's plated MAM.
This to me suggested that provided the actual mass is under the max permitted trailer weight of the vehicle, then the Vosa officer I had, would have been happy.
Obviously I could have misunderstood what he was saying.
The law is very clear on this, so I would have thought he'd have known it.
 
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