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neat welding that 
neat welding that
Very. Although it's Google's
Fish plates seem to be used on near enough every custom chassis build I read. Almost diverts stress. I'm going to put in wherever I can fit over my vertical repairs I think
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@dieseldog69 - where my chassis was shortened and rejoined??
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i would, a weld concentrates any stress a stress riser,
That is neat, don’t see that coming apart.
Maybe a slightly bigger rod, or movement so you get higher up the plate?
No criticism it’s better than my sticking together
Your welding skills have come along way from when you started. Keep up the great work.
J
.Maybe a slightly bigger rod, or movement so you get higher up the plate?
No criticism it’s better than my sticking together
Your welding skills have come along way from when you started. Keep up the great work.
J
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I was thinking we could rebuild that completely when we cut the back end off to fit the flip down tailgate?
Was looking at it a few weeks back and thought that it needed beefing up a bit to something more substantial, maybe even fit it out for a winch tray for a later install?
It will be before you finish
J
I hope so haha. Maybe on the bench!! As long as they're structurally sound I'll be happy. As above a did a couple of naff runs earlier that I'll grind out and go back over tomorrow weather permitting. I'm then going to go over the top of them with fish plates. I'm thinking of fish plates with an overhang angle also. Then spreads stress not only on vertical but horizontal plane too... hmm..
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Nothing wrong with agricultural looking, I've been aiming for that look the whole time I've been welding
Fish plating is for peace of mind where structural integrity has been compromised or where newer higher torque forces will be applied, hence seeing them on hot rods etc,. Just make sure your plates have a radius not angular corners. Another way of adding strength to plate welds is to add backing straps that you tack in and then fuse both the plate and the rail to, it just means you can add a bit more heat without worrying about blowing through a narrow gapped butt joint.
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Pickup style tailgate with a winch below it
Stop it
Mutts nuts hey
I've got a few more sessions of welding to convince himself that he needs a rear winch in his life
Was thinking maybe we could do pneumatic operated pop out rocket launchers out of the front wings, ala James Bond
Nothing wrong with agricultural looking, I've been aiming for that look the whole time I've been welding
Fish plating is for peace of mind where structural integrity has been compromised or where newer higher torque forces will be applied, hence seeing them on hot rods etc,. Just make sure your plates have a radius not angular corners. Another way of adding strength to plate welds is to add backing straps that you tack in and then fuse both the plate and the rail to, it just means you can add a bit more heat without worrying about blowing through a narrow gapped butt joint.
Saw those too on a dodge truck resto lol. Internet is full of info just got to make sure that it's the right info!
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You're not wrong, I like the tried and tested methods, I've not had any problems with the 2mm flush fitting plates on Land Rover chassis thus far but when I do rear cross members I like to use internal plating that I plug and seam weld in to add strength, wouldn't want to see a rear cross member come adrift during recovery or towing a heavy trailer
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Mutts nuts hey
I've got a few more sessions of welding to convince himself that he needs a rear winch in his life
Was thinking maybe we could do pneumatic operated pop out rocket launchers out of the front wings, ala James Bond
Pickup style tailgate with a winch below it
Stop it
Already on the wish list
A long way to go before I get to add-ons.
Not sure on rocket launchers..... maybe groundanchor launchers? Mwahahahaha
You're not wrong, I like the tried and tested methods, I've not had any problems with the 2mm flush fitting plates on Land Rover chassis thus far but when I do rear cross members I like to use internal plating that I plug and seam weld in to add strength, wouldn't want to see a rear cross member come adrift during recovery or towing a heavy trailer
I think rule of thumb is to use that same thickness I.e. 2mm. I like that fact the the welds I'm doing I can see the back of to. I try to do it that way and it often goes that way by fluke but it means I can obviously check penetration. From the outside, most eyes would have thought the welds were fine. Its definitely true that a pretty weld doesn't mean a good weld
Really considering giving up on this chassis. It just looks **** and my welding leaves a lot to be desired. I ground back, 're welded then when the heat went into her it bent the other side out and knocked out crush tube alignment. For **** sake. Are mount locations alignment critical. I.e. if I am out 2mm will I go in a ditch?
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You're not going to like this........
Chop it all out and start again but try and set up your outside corner welds like this.
Notice how the vertical plate gives a shelf for the weld puddle to sit on, using a slight weave you'll be able to marry the two outside edges with the puddle and there will be plenty of penetration through the inside edges where the plates barely touch. Also, plates where there is likely to be high heat input you should tack a little more frequently to avoid warpage.
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