RR Vogue 2003 TD6 transmission....help

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range rover 2003 diesel vogue...BMW's finest....
Any and all comments and help on the following are welcome.

The above car is 65k miles and a late 03 plate ...1 year past the end of its VIP pack....!!...last night the warning message for a transmission programme error flashed. Parked it at a nearby Land Rover dealers and waited to find out the bad news today..expecting pain...but not this much.

Result..... apparently a catastrophic failure of the tramsmission (box is full of bits of metal) and that swarf has damaged the tramsmission oil cooler and the connecting pipes....result....shrugged shoulders and a bill for £5k.

Question..is this normal for a 'great' ...originally £70k car to be reduced to junk in 6 years and 65,000 miles of london and home counties motoring?...is this a known fault....the front prop shaft failed and was replaced a few years ago as part of the recall...but this problem seems very very bad.....and the dealers embarrassed silence..whilst touching is ...'underwhelming'....

Any ideas or thoughts
 
have you seen with your own eyes the swarf in gear box as electrical fault will cause this message.

if it's as chewed as you say +'d expect it to drive like a bag of **** as well
 
i have not seen the swarf...got the good news on the phone from the dealership....they said they put it on the ramp and the gearbox was full of metal shavings....their words... and that whilst they drove it on the ramp...they had to push it off...and now its dead... a four wheel stationary skip.....
so that is all i know....seems wrong as the mileage is not high and the car has not had any kind of hard life....so wat the hell has happened.......
 
it was not driving bad...there was a slight knock when you re-accelerated gently..ie if you were in traffic at 50 and the car in-front started to pull away..the kind of small fault only the driver could notice and the thing that you knew you would mention at the soon to be booked service...but not very bad..not a nail or a dog
 
At a guess and only a guess oil pressure failure caused but defective pump or blocked filter. other than that it would have to be catastrophic component failure which would dump you at the roadside.
did they test the torque converter-lock up test would kill a faulty box as full torque applied
 
i have just had a recon fitted to my 04 plate l322
£2500 was my bill lost drive and the thing just stoped
 
Seams to be a common problem, my 04 plate shat it's self at 112000klms. quote from dealer here £7000! got it sorted for less than £2000 fitted and kept the old box, which I have since had overhauled (now a spare) including new converter for £1150, plus a bit of shipping, by Dexol who make all the components for this box.The possible cause of failure is the torque converter bearing,debris from this gets into box and you have a large repair bill.
 
Yes, no need to let the dealer replace the box, go to a recognised gearbox specialist, Ashcroft Transmissions is well known amongst LR community.

It's not as if it is a LR box anyway, it'll be a ZF box of the type that is fitted to a hundred other cars, so whilst most will lead a normal life you have ended up with an exception.

How does swarf damage an oil cooler and pipes? I can see it blocking it up, but 'damaging it'? Makes you think about whether changing transmission oil is worth it, or should sleeping dogs be left lying.
 
Early (i.e. 2002-2005) petrol (BMW M62 engine) L322s used ZF’s 5HP24 gearbox whereas the diesel-engined (BMW M57 engine) variant - i.e. the subject of this thread - used the General Motors 5L40-E transmission.

For 2006MY onwards both 5-speed gearboxes were replaced by ZF’s 6-speed 6HP26 (and now 6HP28) gearbox - used for both petrol & diesel models.
 
Hi all,the cause is not the box, but the lining of the torque converter breaking up and blocking the pump in the box leading to poor hydraulic pressure and then the box eats itself:eek:, as i have just found out myself on my 03 td6, the guy who did my box refits a custom torque converter with a kevlar lining to eliminate the problem in the future, after reconing the box - cost me £2000 inc fitting, top bloke and job. even gave me a loan car for a couple of days:)

Land rover were aware of this problem but refuse to repair it as a recall, come on £50k car new and they fall to bits...................
 
shaun10569 said:
Hi all,the cause is not the box, but the lining of the torque converter breaking up and blocking the pump in the box leading to poor hydraulic pressure and then the box eats itself:eek:, as i have just found out myself on my 03 td6, the guy who did my box refits a custom torque converter with a kevlar lining to eliminate the problem in the future, after reconing the box - cost me £2000 inc fitting, top bloke and job. even gave me a loan car for a couple of days:)

Land rover were aware of this problem but refuse to repair it as a recall, come on £50k car new and they fall to bits...................
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your point being? a p38 falls to bits-it's part of the course
 
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