Replacing lift up handles...

Alpinewoodsman · Feb 4, 2020

I've got a 1986 90 with lift up handles, and they're knackered. Drivers side door keeps opening itself while driving, and fiddling with it hasn't helped. Locks are equally knackered ( as are the doors, galvanic corrosion, but I'm not replacing them..)

Trying to find replacement door mechanisms is hard work, so I was looking at replacing them with anti-burst ones.

Before spending 100 quid on handles to find out they don't fit, has anyone done this, and do they fit?

saxavordian · Feb 4, 2020

Find some brass padlocks and some bolts and hasps

Alpinewoodsman · Feb 4, 2020

saxavordian said:
Find some brass padlocks and some bolts and hasps

I'd rather not padlock myself in...

gstuart · Feb 4, 2020

saxavordian said:
Find some brass padlocks and some bolts and hasps

If it’s good enough for mr bean, lmao

gstuart · Feb 4, 2020

Have u had a look on ebay ,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...vers+door++anti+burst+door+lock&_sacat=174050

Rougharse Racing · Feb 4, 2020

All doors on 90's should be anti-burst locks.

Litch · Feb 4, 2020

"All doors on 90's should be anti-burst locks."

Yes, I agree.

The old style (non anti-burst) were fitted to earlier Series vehicles but even the S111 (certainly later ones) was fitted with anti-burst mechanisms. Certainly they were fitted to the early (lift up handle) 90 & 110's. If you haven't got them then it is possible someone has retrofitted (very) early doors / handles?
Have posted a couple of photos below showing the difference (not very good but best I could source at short notice). Non anti-burst have a spring loaded latch, anti-burst have a claw.

Non anti-burst.

Anti-burst.

tottot · Feb 4, 2020

Yes, 90 should be anti burst.
Even so these will open if the spring in the door unit if poor, the roller on the pillar latch is broken/missing. door hinges are worn/sloppy. or any combination of the above.

nobber · Feb 4, 2020

I dont think those locks fit in early 90 doors do they? The inside mechanism is all wrong.

nobber · Feb 4, 2020

Do you have the part number for the early 90 locks? I can check my book for you.

Litch · Feb 4, 2020

The actual photos may be of the wrong part number, they were just to illustrate the two different types.

nobber · Feb 4, 2020

I seem to remember when I changed mine for series door the striker didn't fit the lock, so the locks are indeed different.

Alpinewoodsman · Feb 4, 2020

Now I'm more confused.... It's got rectangular pull handles on the inside, like this.

There has been a bodge somewhere!

Rougharse Racing · Feb 4, 2020

The Series type anti-burst locks will fit Millitary 110/90's, your doors are the one piece doors fitted to 90/110's untill about 1986 and as you have found out, they are quite rare these days.
Could be worth giving Paddocks or similar a bell, or email them the photo.

Alpinewoodsman · Feb 4, 2020

There are new original spec doors available- at 400 quid each. I'll take the rear door handle off, offer up to the door, and have a look...I can always cut the door card and or door itself to fit!

wattfield · Feb 4, 2020

Alpinewoodsman said:
There are new original spec doors available- at 400 quid each. I'll take the rear door handle off, offer up to the door, and have a look...I can always cut the door card and or door itself to fit!

There’s a whole kit available for that, 2 doors, tops, hinges & locks. I’ve had do many problems with push button doors I’m changing to these (soon, if finances allow!).

wattfield · Feb 4, 2020

wattfield said:
There’s a whole kit available for that, 2 doors, tops, hinges & locks. I’ve had do many problems with push button doors I’m changing to these (soon, if finances allow!).

£500 for galvanised!

Alpinewoodsman · Feb 4, 2020

I'd have a poke round the local breakers yard, but there only one within two hours doesn't have anything useful...

Gmacz · Feb 4, 2020

Here is my interior handle, doesn't look the same as yours. Mine is 85 90.

NiallRussell · Feb 4, 2020

ahhhh - you've got lift handle outside and pull tab inside. I have that.

Good luck finding new parts to replace bit, thats all i'm going to say

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