Jeep thing or sheep thing?

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Exit

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #121

Earle Horton wrote:
> Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
> the way? ;o)
>
> Earle
>
But Daimlers are British cars - the luxury versions of Jaguars up until very
recently and a British marque in their own right up until the '60's.

http://www.daimler.co.uk/history/html/simm&daimler.htm

If the correct way to pronounce words is the way the country of origin
pronounce it, all Americans speak their language incorrectly! ;-)

--
Julian.
----------
General Melchett from Blackadder describing
his regiments coat of arms:
". . . .two dead Frenchmen atop a pile
of dead Frenchmen. . . . ."

 

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'nuther Bob

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #122

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 19:17:00 GMT, Lon Stowell
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I don't remember Apple ever opened up manufacturing to
> everyone.

I thought it was just the add-in cards, but I didn't follow it
that closely.

Bob

 

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'nuther Bob

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #123

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:18:10 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
>"correct" way to pronounce it.

Don't forget to consider "Daimler Chrysler", where the Chrysler
is always silent.

> How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the way?

"Jag-u-ler" - just like Winnie-the-Pooh says it.

Bob

 

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C Roth

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #124

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:54:51 +0000, Lon Stowell wrote:

Sure wish some of you folks would learn to trim your posts. You're making
bottom posters look bad.

>> Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
>> lot better.
>
> A lot more secure, but as flakey as a cracked out crank addict would be
> my description.

I don't think that's a fair description of Mozilla. What specifically
about it makes you feel it is flakey? I'm using 1.4rc3 daily without any
issues at all.

 

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C Roth

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #125

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:01:37 +0100, Dori Schmetterling wrote:

<Gave up fixing top posting, I'll just trim the hell out of it...>

> Looked at the Bat site. Of the features I need, it seems Outlook Express
> can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
> isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?

This has been answered more than adequately already, so I'll leave it at a
quick 'no'.

One thing I will add that I love about the bat. All you have to do is back
up the directory that the bat installs itself in. If you hose your system
or you have to reinstall, all you have to do is copy The Bat's directory
back over to the new system and run the bat again. And it's very small
for a full featured email program. I'd still be using it if they had a
linux version.

> As regards manipulation of e-mail on a remote server, my ISP gives me web
> access to my POP3 account so can get to it from anywhere. As soon as I
> can log into my e-mail account directly I can download any work I have
> done; I send myself copies of any outgoing mail so that it arrives in my
> downloadable Inbox. In other words, this is entirely
> e-mail-client-independent. Does Bat! offer something superior?

This has nothing at all to do with your email client, as you say. So I'm
a little confused by your question.

 

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Earle Horton

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #126

http://www.diccionarios.com/index.phtml?diccionario=dgle&query=merced

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
> mistaken.
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> : Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
> :
> : Dave Milne wrote:
> : > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> : > news:[email protected]...
> : > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> : > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
> the
> : > way?
> : > : ;o)
> : > :
> : > : Earle
> : > :
> : > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : > : news:[email protected]...
> : > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
mean
> : > : > Daimler-Benz...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > DAS
> : > : > --
> : > : > ---
> : > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> : > : > ---
> : > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > : > news:[email protected]...
> : > : > > Day-mler.
> : > : > >
> : > : > > --
> : > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : > : > >
> : > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : > : > > news:[email protected]...
> : > : > > :
> : > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
> (long-i),
> : > : > isn't
> : > : > > it?
> : > : > >
> : > : > >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

 

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Earle Horton

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #127

"Exit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0IIMa.55728$%[email protected]...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> > "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
> > the way? ;o)
> >
> > Earle
> >
> But Daimlers are British cars - the luxury versions of Jaguars up until
> very recently and a British marque in their own right up until the '60's.
>
> http://www.daimler.co.uk/history/html/simm&daimler.htm
>
> If the correct way to pronounce words is the way the country of origin
> pronounce it, all Americans speak their language incorrectly! ;-)
>
All of the right-speaking English left England for America in the
seventeenth century!

Earle

 

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #128

> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
>>mistaken.
>>
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>>"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>: Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
>>:
>>: Dave Milne wrote:
>>: > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
>>: >
>>: > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>: >
>>: > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>message
>>: > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
>>: > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
>>the
>>: > way?
>>: > : ;o)
>>: > :
>>: > : Earle
>>: > :
>>: > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>: > : news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
>
> mean
>
>>: > : > Daimler-Benz...
>>: > : >
>>: > : >
>>: > : > DAS
>>: > : > --
>>: > : > ---
>>: > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
>>: > : > ---
>>: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>: > : > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > > Day-mler.
>>: > : > >
>>: > : > > --
>>: > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>: > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>: > : > >
>>: > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>: > : > > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > > :
>>: > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
>>(long-i),
>>: > : > isn't
>>: > : > > it?
>>: > : > >

 

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #129

I'll be darned, you are correct. Mistook of having moved to
Nice as being in Nice.

> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
>>mistaken.
>>
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>>"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>: Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
>>:
>>: Dave Milne wrote:
>>: > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
>>: >
>>: > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>: >
>>: > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>message
>>: > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
>>: > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
>>the
>>: > way?
>>: > : ;o)
>>: > :
>>: > : Earle
>>: > :
>>: > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>: > : news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
>
> mean
>
>>: > : > Daimler-Benz...
>>: > : >
>>: > : >
>>: > : > DAS
>>: > : > --
>>: > : > ---
>>: > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
>>: > : > ---
>>: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>: > : > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > > Day-mler.
>>: > : > >
>>: > : > > --
>>: > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>: > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>: > : > >
>>: > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>: > : > > news:[email protected]...
>>: > : > > :
>>: > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
>>(long-i),
>>: > : > isn't
>>: > : > > it?
>>: > : > >
>>: > : > >
>>: > : >
>>: > : >
>>: > :
>>: > :
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

 

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Bill Putney

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #130

Dori Schmetterling wrote:
>
> Doesn't that make it an adjective, too, as in Jeepers Creepers?
>

I think "Jeepers" and "Jeepers Creepers" fall into the category of
publicly acceptable expletives. Expletives are not any other part of
speech and don't require normal sentence structure (they are stand-alone
words or phrases) or punctuation, other than possibly an exclamation
point.

(I don't recall when I've ever seen a more fun and at the same time
otherwise completely useless thread ever.) 8^)

Bill Putney
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address with "x")


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Dave Milne

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #131

Your reply got lost somehow !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
:
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:[email protected]...
: >
: >>Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am
not
: >>mistaken.
: >>
: >>
: >>Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>
: >>"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>news:[email protected]...
: >>: Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
: >>:
: >>: Dave Milne wrote:
: >>: > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
: >>: >
: >>: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>: >
: >>: > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
: >>message
: >>: > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is
the
: >>: > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar,"
by
: >>the
: >>: > way?
: >>: > : ;o)
: >>: > :
: >>: > : Earle
: >>: > :
: >>: > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>: > : news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
: >
: > mean
: >
: >>: > : > Daimler-Benz...
: >>: > : >
: >>: > : >
: >>: > : > DAS
: >>: > : > --
: >>: > : > ---
: >>: > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
: >>: > : > ---
: >>: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >>: > : > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > > Day-mler.
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : > > --
: >>: > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>: > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>: > : > > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > > :
: >>: > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
: >>(long-i),
: >>: > : > isn't
: >>: > : > > it?
: >>: > : > >
:
:

 

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Lon Stowell

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #132

Dave Milne wrote:
> Your reply got lost somehow !

Am on attbi, which has just been moved to comcast.net, but
the posting still shows as attbi. There appear to be a
few "stability issues" still remaining, and these are not
helped by my somewhat impatient mannerisms, where I click
the blankety blank wrong blankety blank button all too
often.

 

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Dave Milne

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #133

I'll be darned I didn't know he moved to Nice !
I knew he raced there, but didn't realise he moved there.
We'll get all the bits of the story between us

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
:
: I'll be darned, you are correct. Mistook of having moved to
: Nice as being in Nice.
:
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:[email protected]...
: >
: >>Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am
not
: >>mistaken.
: >>
: >>
: >>Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>
: >>"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>news:[email protected]...
: >>: Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
: >>:
: >>: Dave Milne wrote:
: >>: > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
: >>: >
: >>: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>: >
: >>: > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
: >>message
: >>: > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is
the
: >>: > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar,"
by
: >>the
: >>: > way?
: >>: > : ;o)
: >>: > :
: >>: > : Earle
: >>: > :
: >>: > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>: > : news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they
: >
: > mean
: >
: >>: > : > Daimler-Benz...
: >>: > : >
: >>: > : >
: >>: > : > DAS
: >>: > : > --
: >>: > : > ---
: >>: > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
: >>: > : > ---
: >>: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >>: > : > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > > Day-mler.
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : > > --
: >>: > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
: >>: > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: >>: > : > > news:[email protected]...
: >>: > : > > :
: >>: > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
: >>(long-i),
: >>: > : > isn't
: >>: > : > > it?
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : > >
: >>: > : >
: >>: > : >
: >>: > :
: >>: > :
: >>: >
: >>: >
: >>:
: >>:
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
: >
:
:

 

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Bill Putney

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #134

Dori Schmetterling wrote:
>
> Only a North American would think that my fellow southern Englishmen and I
> pronounce the "o" in the words listed below the same way as the "aw" in the
> words listed. Maybe they sound the same when viewed from/heard in Atlanta
> (where I was once mistaken for a Yank from NY!) but they are certainly
> different in my part of the world.
>
> BTW, we don't have "British" accents in Britain! We certainly have many
> varieties of accent, but not anything known as "British", not even
> collectively...

Hey - after all, even King James English can sound like the U.S. South -
Romans 1:8
"First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all..." 8^)

Another oddity: On the "100 Greatest Country Music Songs" on CMT, it
was remarked that only Loretta Lynn could rhyme "hard" and "tired" in a
hit song and make it sound natural (song "Coalminer's Daughter").

Bill Putney
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Daniel J. Stern

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #135

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Dori Schmetterling wrote:

> I have never heard of accents in the UK as being called "British" in
> Britain. I have heard only foreigners using this term.

Perhaps you haven't spent several years studying linguistics, which is the
science of this sort of geekery.

DS

 

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RickMerrill

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #136

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Dori Schmetterling wrote:
>
>
>>I have never heard of accents in the UK as being called "British" in
>>Britain. I have heard only foreigners using this term.
>
>
> Perhaps you haven't spent several years studying linguistics, which is the
> science of this sort of geekery.
>
> DS
>

Nobody "names" their own accent, only that of someone else, yes? - RM

 

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Ted Mittelstaedt

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #137

"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> but it IS worth noting that you still CAN
> run Solaris on museum grade hardware, something few other
> operating systems can do.

Nope, not anymore. They removed EISA support from Solaris 8 (x86 of course)
Progress
does march on.

Ted

 

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Ted Mittelstaedt

Guest

• Jul 3, 2003

• #138

"DTJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> But you miss the real point, and confirm that when you say "running OS
> X". The hardware is not superior to anything,

No not true. It is superior to some PC hardware. But then, some PC
hardware is
superior to it as well.

> and in fact is far over
> priced.

No argument there.

> Although not as bad as anything Sun and some others ship.
>
> A PC can do anything any other system can do.

Yes, no argument there either.

But just consider that if you had a UNIX shop and needed some cheap X
workstations
where all you want to do is buy the machine and turn it on and
you don't want to have to **** with it, and you want a single-source support
house to
complain to in case something goes wrong?

You could go out and buy the latest Sun-created hardware/software for lots
of money.

You could go out and buy some Macs with OS X for a bit less money.

I don't argue that you can't get some PC's with nice video cards and run
Xfree86 on some
UNIX variant on them for less money, but these aren't going to meet the
single-source vendor support
demand. That is where I feel the Mac running OS X is superior - for those
people that have
such needs.

>
> The key issue is cost per instruction processed,

This depends on your definition of cost. Many people include the support
costs in the total cost
of ownership, just like vehicle sales. And the ownership costs also
includes what your support
employees are familiar with as well. If your in charge of a Mac shop and
you have a bunch of
users running some canned app, and you have 2 or 3 guys that know the things
back and forth,
then your going to spend a lot more money attempting to replace them with
PC's, despite the
fact that the cost-per-box on just the raw hardware is cheaper for the PC.

> and nothing beats the
> PC for that for consumers and the overwhelming majority of businesses.

Ah, I see your backpedaling now. Since when did it go from macs aren't
superior to "anything"
to only that they aren't superior for the "overwhelming majority"

Ted

 

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Ted Mittelstaedt

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #139

"Nathan Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>

> > run those better. Do you do your grocery shopping and kid carpooling
> > in a Ferrari?
>
> I sure would, if I had a kid or a Ferrari.
>

You mean "kid AND a Ferrari" don't you? And if you ever had both, the
first time the kid drops an ice cream cone down between the seats is the
last time you would ever try pulling that stunt.

Ted

 

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Ted Mittelstaedt

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• Jul 3, 2003

• #140

"Nathan Nagel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>

> > run those better. Do you do your grocery shopping and kid carpooling
> > in a Ferrari?
>
> I sure would, if I had a kid or a Ferrari.
>

You mean "kid AND a Ferrari" don't you? And if you ever had both, the
first time the kid drops an ice cream cone down between the seats is the
last time you would ever try pulling that stunt.

Ted