Jeep thing or sheep thing?

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #101

Dori Schmetterling wrote:
> Looked at the Bat site. Of the features I need, it seems Outlook Express
> can do much the same. The biggest issue seems to me to be security, and
> isn't that taken care of by regular Norton AV updates?

Not completely. The big issue with Outlook is that it uses
Internet Explorer to render. It is POSSIBLE [1] to plant
virus or worms in a computer using media imbeds and attachments
with the outlook client. It is also possible to grab the user's
address book from within outlook, so Norton, etc. can't stop
this.

[1] Most of this can be stopped by common sense, namely don't
allow Active X from anything but trusted sites, and never
directly open an attachment.

And although it is possible to hit a computer using mp3
files, don't know of any non-lab incidents.

 

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #102

Will Honea wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:50:11 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Daniel J. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news[email protected]...
>>
>>>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
>>>>
>>>>It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
>>>>definition of intransitive from the website.
>>>
>>>Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
>>>
>>>Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
>>>
>>
>>
>>At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
>>news and mail? And, is it free?
>
>
> Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
> lot better.

A lot more secure, but as flakey as a cracked out crank addict
would be my description.

 

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Dave Milne

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #103

Day-mler.

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
:
: Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i), isn't
it?

 

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #104

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> "DTJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>And please, don't whine about how a mac is better. It isn't. It is a
>>piece of hardware, and the software is what makes it work. Software
>>can be written to do the same thing on any platform. So please spare
>>us...
>
>
> Believe me, a Mac running OS X is far better UNIX workstation than
> a Sparc 5 running Solaris. As to the consumer desktop apps, well you
> want to run toy programs, of course a toy OS and a toy PC are going to
> run those better. Do you do your grocery shopping and kid carpooling
> in a Ferrari?

This would seem like a good comparison if it weren't so whacked
and as bad as comparing a twin-3Gig Supermicro to a 386
attempting to run Win2000. Mac OSx won't run on the older
Apple hardware, and a Sparc 5 is a museum piece. Try a
Blade series, but it IS worth noting that you still CAN
run Solaris on museum grade hardware, something few other
operating systems can do. Try Win2000 on an Amstrad PPC640.

 

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Lon Stowell

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #105

Bobert wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 03:03:28 GMT, DTJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> <snip rant>
>
>>Mac would be gone by now if it weren't for morons buying that
>>overpriced piece of ****, and for Microsoft coming to their aid. We
>>need to let it DIE. It sucks.
>
>
> I don't know that I agree with your entire rant, but Apple certainly
> cooked their own butts for the reasons you state. They kept it
> proprietary forever, then when they announced that they would open
> up manufacturing to anyone, they still kept it so tightly
> regulated that it was effectively proprietary.
>

I don't remember Apple ever opened up manufacturing to
everyone. There were some Mac clones, most of which were
higher end systems, bigger than anything Apple offered.
Then when Jobs took over Apple again, the first thing he
did was shut down any and all hardware clones.

 

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Kai Ponte

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #106

"SBlackfoot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > a sheep thing is buying an SUV, which is relatively worthless offroad,
and
> keeping it in
> > your driveway because you peer has done the same. Whatever one says
about
> jeeps, they are
> > one of the top 3 vehicles that actually go offroad. the tahoes,
> expeeditions, durangos,
> > etc. can only wish they could follow.
>
> Uhh... My little stock Jimmy can hang with the stock Jeeps fairly well
> offroad. And my brother's Pathfinder does pretty damned well with it's
> Swampers, although snowbanks have been a problem. lol SUVs are
worthless
> offroad? Rookie.
>


I think he meant full-size SUV's, which aren't as nimble as Jimmy's, Blazers
(not the K-5), Pathfinders, and the older 4-Runners (before they became
luxury).


--
Kai Ponte
Perfect Reign - The Peterson Connection
All about the Scott Peterson Murder Trial
www.perfectreign.com

 

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Ernest Borgnine

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #107

"Kai Ponte" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "SBlackfoot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > a sheep thing is buying an SUV, which is relatively worthless offroad,
> and
> > keeping it in
> > > your driveway because you peer has done the same. Whatever one says
> about
> > jeeps, they are
> > > one of the top 3 vehicles that actually go offroad. the tahoes,
> > expeeditions, durangos,
> > > etc. can only wish they could follow.
> >
> > Uhh... My little stock Jimmy can hang with the stock Jeeps fairly well
> > offroad. And my brother's Pathfinder does pretty damned well with it's
> > Swampers, although snowbanks have been a problem. lol SUVs are
> worthless
> > offroad? Rookie.
> >
>
>
> I think he meant full-size SUV's, which aren't as nimble as Jimmy's, Blazers
> (not the K-5), Pathfinders, and the older 4-Runners (before they became
> luxury).
>
>

If you think a 4Runner is a luxury poseur, then what in gawd's name is the pathfinder,
with its eunuch-body construction and Pinto ground clearance? Granted the Pathfinder was
good when it first came out, but that was a LONG time ago (likewise, the earliest Nissan
aka Datsun 4x4 trucks were good but that changed a long time ago). The problem with
domestics like the S-10s is that GM (and all the rest) take their full size trucks and
scale them down to medium/compact size instead of designing something new from the ground
up. BTW, I'd like to see a stock Pathfinder with swampers - unless they come in a P235
size range.....

 

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Jeff Strickland

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #108

"Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Jeeping is a verb.
>
> No, at best it would be a participle requiring a verb (such as "helping"
> requires a verb like "was" -- "he was helping"). But it's not that.
First,
> Jeep is not a real word, but a made-up one, a noun. Secondly, you cannot
> simply declare a noun to be a verb (unless you're Humpty-Dumpty).
>
> If you think you can, then is Chevroleting a verb? Lincolning?
>

Of course there is on Chevroleting, that is my point. There is Jeeping, as
in "we were Jeeping."



>
> > Jeeper is a noun.
> >
> >Jeepers drive a Jeep during activity known as Jeeping. Jeeping can take a
> >Jeeper in a Jeep many places, most of them unacceptable to Lloyd.
>
> Ever hear of a thing called a dictionary?
>
What's wrong now? As a Jeeper, I really want to know. Jeeper is a noun.

Dictionary? We don't need no stinking dictionary.

 

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Will Honea

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #109

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:54:51 UTC Lon Stowell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Will Honea wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:50:11 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Daniel J. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
> >>>>
> >>>>It looks like OE performed this 'favor' for me when I cut-n-pasted the
> >>>>definition of intransitive from the website.
> >>>
> >>>Outbreak Express? For news, let alone for mail?
> >>>
> >>>Shame, Geoff. I expected better/smarter from you.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>At the risk of being a total moron, what's better than Lookout Express for
> >>news and mail? And, is it free?
> >
> >
> > Damn, even Mozilla fits that description - and I don't like it a whole
> > lot better.
>
> A lot more secure, but as flakey as a cracked out crank addict
> would be my description.

Well, I wouldn't go QUITE that far <g>. I rarely use anything but the
browser simply because I still use mostly OS/2. There I use a news
reader that I have yet to see equalled (ProNews/2, for which I also
have the source code and CVS repository access) and I'm a whole lot
happier with the LAN functionality and security than with what I get
from Win-whatever. I use a Java email client that is free and
actively supported so I don't need Mozilla for that. Linux would give
equivilant LAN functionality - same BSD-derived stack - but OS/2 paid
the bills for a lot of years so that's what is installed. It ain't
broke so...

I should look at Forte again; I've heard good things about it.

--
Will Honea <[email protected]>

 

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Will Honea

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #110

I don't know about that, Nate. Seems to me AH, ****! comes pretty
naturally at times.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:16:17 UTC "Nathan W. Collier" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Jeep is not a real word, but a made-up one
>
> BUWHAHAHA! what word is _not_ "made up"? do tell me what "natural" words
> exist.
>
> stool.
>
>


--
Will Honea <[email protected]>

 

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Dori Schmetterling

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #111

I have never heard of accents in the UK as being called "British" in
Britain. I have heard only foreigners using this term.

Maybe I missed something, but I don't think I have a "British accent."

DAS
--
---
NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Of course we have British accents in Britain. The fact we have a distinct
> accent for every major city is irrelevent.
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> : Dori Schmetterling snivelled:
> :
> : > BTW, we don't have "British" accents in Britain!
> :
> : Certainly you do, when referred to collectively. Compare to the other
> : collective referent I employed in the same paragraph, "North American
> : accents".
> :
> : Don't be such a git.
> :
> : DS
> :
>
>

 

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Nathan W. Collier

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #112

"Will Honea" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know about that, Nate. Seems to me AH, ****! comes pretty
> naturally at times.

agreed. im sure feltcher lloyds mom said that same thing on his actual
birthday!


--
Nathan W. Collier
'03 Jeep Rubicon
Jeep and let Jeep

http://7SlotGrille.com

 

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Dori Schmetterling

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #113

In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
Daimler-Benz...


DAS
--
---
NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
---
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Day-mler.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> :
> : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
isn't
> it?
>
>

 

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Earle Horton

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #114

Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
"correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the way?
;o)

Earle

"Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
> Daimler-Benz...
>
>
> DAS
> --
> ---
> NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> ---
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Day-mler.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > :
> > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
> isn't
> > it?
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Nathan W. Collier

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #115

"Ernest Borgnine" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:EEFMa.118701$MJ5.65332@fed1read03...
> Ouch
> A "Gere-ing" he would go!

lol....with a distinct difference being that gere would do it out of choice
(i mean, he was banging cindy crawford at one time) where as feltcher lloyd
http://www.oxford.emory.edu/Directories/View.cfm?UserID=130 couldnt find
snatch in a womens prison.


--
Nathan W. Collier
'03 Jeep Rubicon
Jeep and let Jeep

http://7SlotGrille.com

 

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Dave Milne

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #116

True, but it doesn't invalidate the term.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: I have never heard of accents in the UK as being called "British" in
: Britain. I have heard only foreigners using this term.
:
: Maybe I missed something, but I don't think I have a "British accent."
:
: DAS
: --
: ---
: NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
: ---
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]...
: > Of course we have British accents in Britain. The fact we have a
distinct
: > accent for every major city is irrelevent.
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: >
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Daniel J. Stern" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: > news[email protected]...
: > : Dori Schmetterling snivelled:
: > :
: > : > BTW, we don't have "British" accents in Britain!
: > :
: > : Certainly you do, when referred to collectively. Compare to the other
: > : collective referent I employed in the same paragraph, "North American
: > : accents".
: > :
: > : Don't be such a git.
: > :
: > : DS
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

 

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Dave Milne

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• Jul 2, 2003

• #117

How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
: "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the
way?
: ;o)
:
: Earle
:
: "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]...
: > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
: > Daimler-Benz...
: >
: >
: > DAS
: > --
: > ---
: > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
: > ---
: > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > news:[email protected]...
: > > Day-mler.
: > >
: > > --
: > > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > >
: > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: > > news:[email protected]...
: > > :
: > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
: > isn't
: > > it?
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
:

 

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Lon Stowell

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #118

Dave Milne wrote:
> How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the
> way?
> : ;o)
> :
> : Earle
> :
> : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]...
> : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
> : > Daimler-Benz...
> : >
> : >
> : > DAS
> : > --
> : > ---
> : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> : > ---
> : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > news:[email protected]...
> : > > Day-mler.
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : > >
> : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : > > news:[email protected]...
> : > > :
> : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
> : > isn't
> : > > it?
> : > >
> : > >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

 

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Lon Stowell

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #119

Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.

Dave Milne wrote:
> How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
> : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by the
> way?
> : ;o)
> :
> : Earle
> :
> : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]...
> : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
> : > Daimler-Benz...
> : >
> : >
> : > DAS
> : > --
> : > ---
> : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
> : > ---
> : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : > news:[email protected]...
> : > > Day-mler.
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : > >
> : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : > > news:[email protected]...
> : > > :
> : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler" (long-i),
> : > isn't
> : > > it?
> : > >
> : > >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

 

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Dave Milne

Guest

• Jul 2, 2003

• #120

Emil Jellinek came from Vienna, and Mercedes is a spanish name if I am not
mistaken.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Same way the french do, as the name comes from a frenchwoman.
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > How do the German's pronounce Mercedes ?
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Earle Horton" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
: > news:[email protected]...
: > : Since Daimler is a German name, it would seem to me that that is the
: > : "correct" way to pronounce it. How does one pronounce "Jaguar," by
the
: > way?
: > : ;o)
: > :
: > : Earle
: > :
: > : "Dori Schmetterling" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: > : news:[email protected]...
: > : > In Germany it's dimeler (as in "ice"), but of course over they mean
: > : > Daimler-Benz...
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > DAS
: > : > --
: > : > ---
: > : > NB: To reply directly replace "nospam" with "schmetterling"
: > : > ---
: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : > news:[email protected]...
: > : > > Day-mler.
: > : > >
: > : > > --
: > : > > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : > >
: > : > > "Lloyd Parker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: > : > > news:[email protected]...
: > : > > :
: > : > > : Daimler (the make) is "dimler" in Britain, not "dime-ler"
(long-i),
: > : > isn't
: > : > > it?
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
: