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derwendolly said:
Hippo,
If I was you, I would plant it out asap and certainly before the ground gets frosted. Being a re-pot he will be struggling to survive amid all the water as his adventitious roots will have 'suffered/damaged' during the transfer and he will, pretty soon. get root rot and d**.
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Oh ah din't realise. Problem is I don't know where to plant him. It's said he might grow quite big. I was going to put him out the front but we thought someone may nick him with him being a crispmus tree. So he will go in the back garden in stead. The soil there stays quite wet. I'm not sure if he was dug up or pot grown. I can look at his label tonight. I need to work out where best to put him for the future. The rear of the house gets the sun from mid morning throughout the rest of the day. Do you think I could put him in a bigger pot for a while and drill a hole so all the water drains out. then water him a bit daily. That way his roots won't be sat in water all the time?
 
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Hippo said:
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Oh sh*t ah din't realise. Problem is I don't know where to plant him. It's said he might grow quite big. I was going to put him out the front but we thought someone may nick him with him being a crispmus tree. So he will go in the back garden in stead. The soil there stays quite wet. I'm not sure if he was dug up or pot grown. I can look at his label tonight. I need to work out where best to put him for the future. The rear of the house gets the sun from mid morning throughout the rest of the day. Do you think I could put him in a bigger pot for a while and drill a hole so all the water drains out. then water him a bit daily. That way his roots won't be sat in water all the time?
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They don't grow well in pots, due to the large size, and rapid growth rates as they get bigger.
What species are we talking here? Picea Abies? Abies Nordmanniana? Picea Glauca?
 
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Hippo said:
:eek:
Oh sh*t ah din't realise. Problem is I don't know where to plant him. It's said he might grow quite big. I was going to put him out the front but we thought someone may nick him with him being a crispmus tree. So he will go in the back garden in stead. The soil there stays quite wet. I'm not sure if he was dug up or pot grown. I can look at his label tonight. I need to work out where best to put him for the future. The rear of the house gets the sun from mid morning throughout the rest of the day. Do you think I could put him in a bigger pot for a while and drill a hole so all the water drains out. then water him a bit daily. That way his roots won't be sat in water all the time?
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I don't know how big 'is present pot is but I'd be reluctant to re-pot it again now. The important thing is to let it dry out as much as possible and then be very sparing with the water until it is virtually dry when you can perhaps give it a wee drink occasionally. Keep his pot up off the bottom or his shallow 'saucer' or better, just put 'is pot on the bare ground - not in a puddle or wet area. Where he was grown it would not have been in wet ground.
As for growth, remember, you can prune it to restrict the width but do not prune the 'leader' branch - let that just grow up. When pruning keep the shape!! I don't think you will need to worry about pruning it for a few years yet, it needs to acclimatise itself to its new life in the 'ippo garden.
 
Turboman said:
They don't grow well in pots, due to the large size, and rapid growth rates as they get bigger.
What species are we talking here? Picea Abies? Abies Nordmanniana? Picea Glauca?
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I'm think I'm right in saying from memory he's a norweigion spruce. Born just above inverness. So looking at the web he would be a picea abies as that seems to be the same thing.
 
derwendolly said:
I don't know how big 'is present pot is but I'd be reluctant to re-pot it again now. The important thing is to let it dry out as much as possible and then be very sparing with the water until it is virtually dry when you can perhaps give it a wee drink occasionally. Keep his pot up off the bottom or his shallow 'saucer' or better, just put 'is pot on the bare ground - not in a puddle or wet area. Where he was grown it would not have been in wet ground.
As for growth, remember, you can prune it to restrict the width but do not prune the 'leader' branch - let that just grow up. When pruning keep the shape!! I don't think you will need to worry about pruning it for a few years yet, it needs to acclimatise itself to its new life in the 'ippo garden.
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Looking at the pic below I think the pot is about 10 inches wide. He's actually in another pot inside this which is clear. He had a plastic bag wrapper round this which I removed them but the clear plastic pot back inside the red one. Some of his roots had started to come through the clear plastic pot already.

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Hippo said:
I'm think I'm right in saying from memory he's a norweigion spruce. Born just above inverness. So looking at the web he would be a picea abies as that seems to be the same thing.
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Norway Spruce, Picea Abies. Traditional Christmas Tree in Britain. Small, dark green needles about an inch long, which tend to drop off all over the place.
They can grow to about 100 ft high over time, grow about a foot a year at first, going up to two feet and over a year when the tree gets established and over 10 feet high.
 
Hippo said:
Looking at the pic below I think the pot is about 10 inches wide. He's actually in another pot inside this which is clear. He had a plastic bag wrapper round this which I removed them but the clear plastic pot back inside the red one. Some of his roots had started to come through the clear plastic pot already.

imh]
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Hard to tell from that if it is pot grown, or dug and potted. If the former, it has a much better chance of survival in the ground, as the entire root system will be contained within the pot.
Whichever, you need to get it outside, and out of the pot and in the ground ASAP, and the tree will need staking.
The best way to do this is with a stout stake driven into the ground so that the stake crosses the trunk at about 45 degrees.
Attach the stake to the trunk using an old pair of tights, they will allow the trunk to grow safely, unlike expensive tree ties, which can cut into the trunk as it expands.
Once the tree is established, probably 2-3 years, the stake and tights can be removed.
 
Turboman said:
Hard to tell from that if it is pot grown, or dug and potted. If the former, it has a much better chance of survival in the ground, as the entire root system will be contained within the pot.
Whichever, you need to get it outside, and out of the pot and in the ground ASAP, and the tree will need staking.
The best way to do this is with a stout stake driven into the ground so that the stake crosses the trunk at about 45 degrees.
Attach the stake to the trunk using an old pair of tights, they will allow the trunk to grow safely, unlike expensive tree ties, which can cut into the trunk as it expands.
Once the tree is established, probably 2-3 years, the stake and tights can be removed.
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Thanks. I kept him outside in the corner since getting him just before christmas. I will plant him at the week end. I will also put him in the garage over night as he's probably going to get blow'd over tonight.
 
Hippo said:
Thanks. I kept him outside in the corner since getting him just before christmas. I will plant him at the week end. I will also put him in the garage over night as he's probably going to get blow'd over tonight.
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Garage is fine for a few days, the main thing is to get it outside in the cold, you don't want it coming out of dormancy in the warmth indoors, and then getting stressed by the cold when it does go outside.
 
Turboman said:
Garage is fine for a few days, the main thing is to get it outside in the cold, you don't want it coming out of dormancy in the warmth indoors, and then getting stressed by the cold when it does go outside.
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He was outside when I got him from homebase. Under their canopy but open to the elements. Never been inside the house when he was with me. So hopefully he's never been indoors.
 
Turboman said:
Norway Spruce, Picea Abies. Traditional Christmas Tree in Britain. Small, dark green needles about an inch long, which tend to drop off all over the place.
They can grow to about 100 ft high over time, grow about a foot a year at first, going up to two feet and over a year when the tree gets established and over 10 feet high.
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Apparently we have one in our back garden, it's huge, we've been here 20 years and it was massive then. ****ting it now you say it can grow to 100ft, must be 60-70ft already....needs to come down but far too big for me to attempt...
 
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