I would just like to say

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Funny to see the BIK benefit int kind changes on pickups. Will put the price of Freelanders up as they will be looking to buy them instead. Lot of talk on forums about gerrin round it in the past. Norrany more. Tax man rules change later this year. This will catch em oot. They seem to forget it was a concession to treat a 5 seater assa van and norra car. Lets be honest ere a pickup ain't a van. A transit is a van. Yer can't gerra sheet of 8x4 from wix in a pickup. The concession was just that. When eye were a nipper it was called 'lets pretend'. Pickups wiv one row of seats dun't look like they is affected. Two rows of seats are. So all thems plasterer and plumbers and wanabee's that want a pickup and gerrit cheap through pretending to need it for wuk, will be paying propper tax onnit now. Viv 3L 6 cylinder engines they ain't cheap to run. Cheaper to fuel a big freelander rrs.
 
Hippo said:
Funny to see the BIK benefit int kind changes on pickups. Will put the price of Freelanders up as they will be looking to buy them instead. Lot of talk on forums about gerrin round it in the past. Norrany more. Tax man rules change later this year. This will catch em oot. They seem to forget it was a concession to treat a 5 seater assa van and norra car. Lets be honest ere a pickup ain't a van. A transit is a van. Yer can't gerra sheet of 8x4 from wix in a pickup. The concession was just that. When eye were a nipper it was called 'lets pretend'. Pickups wiv one row of seats dun't look like they is affected. Two rows of seats are. So all thems plasterer and plumbers and wanabee's that want a pickup and gerrit cheap through pretending to need it for wuk, will be paying propper tax onnit now. Viv 3L 6 cylinder engines they ain't cheap to run. Cheaper to fuel a big freelander rrs.
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If the vehicle is owned by a company and it is made available for private use of an employee of the company, BIK would apply. If the vehicle is privately owned, registered to the tradesman or whatever, BIK could not apply. And the owner / user can claim tax relief on the business mileage. Or that's how it worked in my last 15 years or so of working. Worked quite well, the guvmint paid for a couple of my cars - until I bought me tratter which used more diesel than the mileage allowance so I was a bit out of pocket. But still got me tratter :cool:
 
Wimblowdriver said:
If the vehicle is owned by a company and it is made available for private use of an employee of the company, BIK would apply. If the vehicle is privately owned, registered to the tradesman or whatever, BIK could not apply. And the owner / user can claim tax relief on the business mileage. Or that's how it worked in my last 15 years or so of working. Worked quite well, the guvmint paid for a couple of my cars - until I bought me tratter which used more diesel than the mileage allowance so I was a bit out of pocket. But still got me tratter :cool:
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So the plumberists can still claim for 5 seater pickups and not pay car tax on them? Eye fort it would affect all commercial 'owners'.
 
Hippo said:
So the plumberists can still claim for 5 seater pickups and not pay car tax on them? Eye fort it would affect all commercial 'owners'.
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I ain't no expert in this and current / changing rools. As I understand it, double cabs are classed as vans for benefit in kind purposes. But will change (after a transition period) to being classed as a car for benefit in kind purposes. This will put a much bigger tax burden on individual employees who have this as a benefit. As I see it, if an individual owns a double cab and uses it for business purposes (suitably insured to prove this) it is not made available to him as an employee, hence no benefit in kind, and no income tax to pay.
 
My Old Landy said:
My Shogun is registered as a van which surprised me when taxing and insuring it. I made sure the insurance knew it had 5 seats.
I have business insurance but it is a private vehicle so no BIK 👍
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My tratter is road taxed as a commercial vehicle despite it being a station wagon with factory fitted rear seats. This puts it in the lowest road tax class. But it is registered as a dual purpose vehicle and as such it is not restricted to commercial vehicle speed limits. (No sarky comments about speed please @Hippo )
 
Wimblowdriver said:
My tratter is road taxed as a commercial vehicle despite it being a station wagon with factory fitted rear seats. This puts it in the lowest road tax class. But it is registered as a dual purpose vehicle and as such it is not restricted to commercial vehicle speed limits. (No sarky comments about speed please @Hippo )
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That is interesting. I think my 90 is classed as 4x4 light duty. Don't know what it means and as it doesn't have an engine currently it doesn't matter!!
 
Wimblowdriver said:
I ain't no expert in this and current / changing rools. As I understand it, double cabs are classed as vans for benefit in kind purposes. But will change (after a transition period) to being classed as a car for benefit in kind purposes. This will put a much bigger tax burden on individual employees who have this as a benefit. As I see it, if an individual owns a double cab and uses it for business purposes (suitably insured to prove this) it is not made available to him as an employee, hence no benefit in kind, and no income tax to pay.
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Thats a shame then. It wont get rid of them oft the road like what some reports suggest. This one defines the rules betterer and the new costs:

Double-cab pick-up truck tax explained | Auto Express

The inside line on HMRC’s VAT and Benefit-in-Kind tax rules for those using double-cab pick-ups as company vehicles
www.autoexpress.co.uk www.autoexpress.co.uk
 
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