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DanClarke said:
Morning All :D
Awoken @ 05:30 by the kids running around. :mad:
Then they were yanking on the bedroom door-handle @6. :mad:
I lost my rag and shouted at them to get back to bed. :eek:
Friction between me and her because I said "No" but she's said yes to the whole thing. :(
I'm sure it will blow over but I object to being used in this way.
Have a good day :D
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Never mind! Kids love "Grumpy the Grandad!!"
And I'm with you! Never hesitate to tell em how I/We like them to behave in our house.
They can feck about all they want at their own place!!!;);)
 
derwendolly said:
Baby sitting duties are one thing, kids running riot and ruling the roost is another. :mad: It's your house you set the rules! I wouldn't even have the dogs running riot and causing a disturbance to me at that hour. They need to be taught to live within the rules and entering your bedroom without an invite is definately a no no. Perhaps it would be a good idea to catch them at the breakfast table and fully explain the house rules to them, this would then make it acceptable for you to shout for peace at that unruly hour and expect to be obeyed. If they don't comply then sanctions will come into play, at the very least they will obey :) at the best, they will tell their dad that they do not want to sleep-over at grandad's. :):):)

It is hard for children to live by two sets of rules without knowing when and where to apply each different one. A good mantra to keep in mind is " If you haven't taught it then they don't know it".
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Quite! Wifey and I just say "Our house, our rules." We usually only have to say it once and their parents sometimes ask us how we manage to get them to behave better than they do at home! That fraction of distance between us and them I think also makes a big difference.
 
Whenever I got a bit feisty and my grandpa's place, he used to give me a hammer and a jar of 6 inch nails, and tell me to hammer them into the top of an old set of steps they had. Once I'd done a few of those I calmed down.
By the time we left Hull and I was eight the top step looked like a hedgehog underneath and how it never split to pieces I will never know!

Sometimes the old methods.............;)
 
DanClarke said:
I had the discussion with my son and he had assured me that they had been made very well aware that Nanny & Grandad need their sleep and they were to stay in their rooms and be quiet until we fetched them at "getting up" time.
They are just unruly and mis-behaved (which is why I don't want them here without their parents). My wife seems unable to say "NO" to her son. My starting position is "NO", hers is "YES". :(
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It really is none of my business but I do know how the devious little b.....ds tick!

I'm pleased to know that your son is aware of the poor behaviour of his kids - they have been brought up to do it that way. NOW it is your home and YOU tell them directly to their faces what the accepted behaviour is in YOUR house and what will NOT be tolerated. (Firmly but friendly) Both nanny and grandpa do this together or else they will play one of you off against the other! It is also worth bearing in mind that children do not understand that adults talk to each other!! You must tell them that you have already talked to daddy about this.

Last but not least is for everyone to remember that kids are able to detect that the stability of the family is on the wobble and their way of dealing with that is not the way an adult would do it.
If you have not already been contacted by the school about their strange behaviour within the school, then you very soon will! The school has to protect everyone, including the troubled ones.
It might be a good plan for your son to have a brief word with each child's teacher WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, it is enough for them to know that there is a good reason for any possible changes in the children. It is best if he lets them know BEFORE things get to the point of them contacting him about problems they are experiencing.
 
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derwendolly said:
It really is none of my business but I do know how the devious little b.....ds tick!

I'm pleased to know that your son is aware of the poor behaviour of his kids - they have been brought up to do it that way. NOW it is your home and YOU tell them directly to their faces what the accepted behaviour is in YOUR house and what will NOT be tolerated. (Firmly but friendly) Both nanny and grandpa do this together or else they will play one of you off against the other! It is also worth bearing in mind that children do not understand that adults talk to each other!! You must tell them that you have already talked to daddy about this.

Last but not least is for everyone to remember that kids are able to detect that the stability of the family is on the wobble and their way of dealing with that is not the way an adult would do it.
If you have not already been contacted by the school about their strange behaviour within the school, then you very soon will! The school has to protect everyone, including the troubled ones.
It might be a good plan for your son to have a brief word with each child's teacher WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, it is enough for them to know that there is a good reason for any possible changes in the children. It is best if he lets them know BEFORE things get to the point of them contacting him about problems they are experiencing.
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Yes indeed. School has been alerted to the home situation and asked to watch for unusual behavioural changes.
The 8YO boy was very distressed the other day because "Mummy was shouting at Daddy". He is (I hate to say it) a sly and artful little devil with a proclivity for lies & theft.
The 5YO girl is still too babyish for anything other than being led by her elder brother.
I am sure we will all get through this...eventually.
 
Wot does yer fink to the size of the holes in this bird feeder?
Small enuff for little birds like bobbins to feed through to get wurms or too small?

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derwendolly said:
Baby sitting duties are one thing, kids running riot and ruling the roost is another. :mad: It's your house you set the rules! I wouldn't even have the dogs running riot and causing a disturbance to me at that hour. They need to be taught to live within the rules and entering your bedroom without an invite is definately a no no. Perhaps it would be a good idea to catch them at the breakfast table and fully explain the house rules to them, this would then make it acceptable for you to shout for peace at that unruly hour and expect to be obeyed. If they don't comply then sanctions will come into play, at the very least they will obey :) at the best, they will tell their dad that they do not want to sleep-over at grandad's. :):):)

It is hard for children to live by two sets of rules without knowing when and where to apply each different one. A good mantra to keep in mind is " If you haven't taught it then they don't know it".
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All kids live by two sets of rules at least, school and home as an example ...

Mine used 'street speak' / slang at school, but not allowed at home ...
 
derwendolly said:
It really is none of my business but I do know how the devious little b.....ds tick!

I'm pleased to know that your son is aware of the poor behaviour of his kids - they have been brought up to do it that way. NOW it is your home and YOU tell them directly to their faces what the accepted behaviour is in YOUR house and what will NOT be tolerated. (Firmly but friendly) Both nanny and grandpa do this together or else they will play one of you off against the other! It is also worth bearing in mind that children do not understand that adults talk to each other!! You must tell them that you have already talked to daddy about this.

Last but not least is for everyone to remember that kids are able to detect that the stability of the family is on the wobble and their way of dealing with that is not the way an adult would do it.
If you have not already been contacted by the school about their strange behaviour within the school, then you very soon will! The school has to protect everyone, including the troubled ones.
It might be a good plan for your son to have a brief word with each child's teacher WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, it is enough for them to know that there is a good reason for any possible changes in the children. It is best if he lets them know BEFORE things get to the point of them contacting him about problems they are experiencing.
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Agree, sadly, seeing it from both sides of the desk as it were.
They may well treat school as the only place of stability, in which case they may be OK. but sooner or later it'll get to them and bits of otherwise not normal behaviour may "out".
Just telling their Head of Year or tutor/form teacher may be enough but then one would be relying on them to pass the message on, tactfully. Depends on how well the parent knows the staff and how good the pastoral system is in their particular school.
All not fun!:(:(:(
 
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