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DanClarke said:
Morning All :D
Goodness it is "taters" this morning. :eek: first real frost of the year here.
Herself went for the paper early as she has a diabetic eye screening this morning so dilation drops later before the OCT scan.
Having done all the good deeds over the weekend I have the day largely to myself (for a change). ;)
Mini-project for me and Thom next week is the installation of 12 LED downlighters and also a pendant cluster over the peninsular in the kitchen so a trip to Screwfix this morning after she is back from the screening (with her white stick).
Other than this I feel some home-gym coming over me and maybe some trike-building.;)
You all have a really good day! :D
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When I did ours ages ago, I had to empty the bedroom above, lift the carpet and some floor boards. And I only fitted 5, all branched of the original central light fitting, which I then removed. What a pain it was, as floor boards in our house are huge, square, tongue and groove ply!
So I hope you have an easier way of doing it, what with 12 and the cluster!:):):) Perhaps you have a ceiling on suspenders. :D:D:D:D
 
Stanleysteamer said:
When I did ours ages ago, I had to empty the bedroom above, lift the carpet and some floor boards. And I only fitted 5, all branched of the original central light fitting, which I then removed. What a pain it was, as floor boards in our house are huge, square, tongue and groove ply!
So I hope you have an easier way of doing it, what with 12 and the cluster!:):):) Perhaps you have a ceiling on suspenders. :D:D:D:D
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Sadly, the entirety of the second floor except the 2 bathrooms is all laminate flooring (why, oh-why did they not warn us? ;)) so nothing is coming up off the floors upstairs.
Luckily, the joists run in the direction I want to place the lights (front to back) so I think it will not be too hard to pick up the power end run the lights in a string.
The difficult ones will the the ones that traverse across the joists, but even so, I have a plan and some ridiculously long drill bits and fibreglass cabling rods. ;)
There will be before & after pics taken, of course.
 
kevstar said:
The rules fur the thread is....if yer doin somit then its to be backed up wiv piccys... :D:D
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New step in progress. Tomorrows job is placing the slabs on. Re-cycled bricks. And recycled granite for the slabs - only one previous owner in the last 400 million years or so. And me supervisor in the corner keeping an eye on things :D

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DanClarke said:
Sadly, the entirety of the second floor except the 2 bathrooms is all laminate flooring (why, oh-why did they not warn us? ;)) so nothing is coming up off the floors upstairs.
Luckily, the joists run in the direction I want to place the lights (front to back) so I think it will not be too hard to pick up the power end run the lights in a string.
The difficult ones will the the ones that traverse across the joists, but even so, I have a plan and some ridiculously long drill bits and fibreglass cabling rods. ;)
There will be before & after pics taken, of course.
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If the joists are visible, or you at least know where they are, I can see how you will be able to thread cable above the ceiling boards, although that will be somewhat tricky, I think I'd use shower hose or summat! But then I have never seen cabling rod, so now i may google it, just out of interest!
When I did the recent kitchen reinstall, I had to remove a normal ceiling drop down light fitting, cut a hole in the place I was going to put the big downlighter, to match the others, as when I did the previous work, involving lifting the boards, there was no such thing as small downlighters! So I then cut a hole the size oft he piece of plasterboard I had just cut out and was able, just, to get a makita right- angle drill into the hole. I had to assemble the drill and the bit inside the space above the hole to drill a 10mm hole through the hidden rafter, then make a cable connection, feed it through to the section where the new hole had been cut.
I then plastered the newly cut piece into the hole where the old light fitting had been. Connected the extended cable to the new light fitting and put that in the new hole. WHAT a pain.
So I completely understand what you mean. but it would have been nice, if this is in your son's place, that they planned the kitchen lighting a bit before putting down the upstairs flooring! Which I think this is what you meant!
 
Booked my flu jab, now I'm allowed to have it, Saturdi at 09:15 ...

Gonna be a busy week ...
Tuesdi : boiler service
Wodensdi : Shopping trolley MOT, Dad check up on and service Charlie the Budgie food and water
Fridi : Dad shoppin', Charlie the Budgie feed & water
Saturdi : Flu jab
Sundi : Dad lunch and washing, Charlie the Budgie usual ...

and repeat ....
 
Stanleysteamer said:
If the joists are visible, or you at least know where they are, I can see how you will be able to thread cable above the ceiling boards, although that will be somewhat tricky, I think I'd use shower hose or summat! But then I have never seen cabling rod, so now i may google it, just out of interest!
When I did the recent kitchen reinstall, I had to remove a normal ceiling drop down light fitting, cut a hole in the place I was going to put the big downlighter, to match the others, as when I did the previous work, involving lifting the boards, there was no such thing as small downlighters! So I then cut a hole the size oft he piece of plasterboard I had just cut out and was able, just, to get a makita right- angle drill into the hole. I had to assemble the drill and the bit inside the space above the hole to drill a 10mm hole through the hidden rafter, then make a cable connection, feed it through to the section where the new hole had been cut.
I then plastered the newly cut piece into the hole where the old light fitting had been. Connected the extended cable to the new light fitting and put that in the new hole. WHAT a pain.
So I completely understand what you mean. but it would have been nice, if this is in your son's place, that they planned the kitchen lighting a bit before putting down the upstairs flooring! Which I think this is what you meant!
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Is in my own house, and when we did my son's the upper floor "floors" were undisturbed. We took ALL the downstairs ceilings down, ran the cables, plaster-boarded, had it all skimmed and then cut the holes for the lights and fished for the cables and connected up. But I think that was cheating a little. This may be more awkward as the existing cabling may be like a bowstring with no real slack. :oops: But we will sort it with the minimum disruption I am sure. ;)
Thanks for the reply. :D
 
DanClarke said:
Is in my own house, and when we did my son's the upper floor "floors" were undisturbed. We took ALL the downstairs ceilings down, ran the cables, plaster-boarded, had it all skimmed and then cut the holes for the lights and fished for the cables and connected up. But I think that was cheating a little. This may be more awkward as the existing cabling may be like a bowstring with no real slack. :oops: But we will sort it with the minimum disruption I am sure. ;)
Thanks for the reply. :D
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Just run the caybles across the ceiling and measure the distance between cayble clips precisely, ter make it look neat.
 
Dippypud said:
Booked my flu jab, now I'm allowed to have it, Saturdi at 09:15 ...

Gonna be a busy week ...
Tuesdi : boiler service
Wodensdi : Shopping trolley MOT, Dad check up on and service Charlie the Budgie food and water
Fridi : Dad shoppin', Charlie the Budgie feed & water
Saturdi : Flu jab
Sundi : Dad lunch and washing, Charlie the Budgie usual ...

and repeat ....
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My jab this affo came right out of the blue. Was going to ring em up today, normally they are useless but suddenly they rang me up and offered me slots!
Co incidentally, wifey's Pluriel has an MOT test tomoz! Crossed fingers for yours, as well!:):):)
 
DanClarke said:
Is in my own house, and when we did my son's the upper floor "floors" were undisturbed. We took ALL the downstairs ceilings down, ran the cables, plaster-boarded, had it all skimmed and then cut the holes for the lights and fished for the cables and connected up. But I think that was cheating a little. This may be more awkward as the existing cabling may be like a bowstring with no real slack. :oops: But we will sort it with the minimum disruption I am sure. ;)
Thanks for the reply. :D
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Be interesting to know what sort of finish you have on the ceiling. We have Artex as was standard back in 1982! So masking the fact a hole has been made was not so difficult.
But if you take the existing light down and make a connection, then shove it back up into the hole the rest of the cable can be fed elsewhere can't it?! Also a feel around when the fitting is down will prolly give you an idea of how taught the cable is and where it comes from!
Best of luck, looking forward to seeing how you did it!
 
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