HID, have i been stupid?

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Very true !

Got to say iv had a few moments where they actually blind you so much that you loose your vision for a split second !!

Horrible experience
 
Now imagine having that happen EVERY time you drive in the dark. Multiple times a journey. I probably get temp blind 15-20 times a night. Not my idea of fun just so some selfish [explicitly deleted] can see half an inch further down the road and because it "looks cool."
 
Been thinking of using the outdoor Christmas fairy lights-they are LED's !!

Er Indoors Vectra has the factory fitted projector HID's with halogen main beam, the light from the dipped beam hid's in my opinion is crap apart for illuminating the large green road signs. They are self levelling with washers...and set up right.
Just a gadget methinks, just like electronic park brakes.
 
Datatek said:
All cars will never have them as they are already obsolete. LED lamps are the next big thing, and much cheaper for the manufacturers to fit:D
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I can imagine that to get an equivalent LED replacement to the same lumen output is probably quite expensive at the moment ?
 
I have it on good authority ( from an led light manufacturer) that they still haven't cracked the depth if light penetration ( distance it lights up). The can be very bright but no depth, hence they are very good for warning lights or sidelights, not not very good, at the no, for headlights or fog/spot lights.
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
I have it on good authority ( from an led light manufacturer) that they still haven't cracked the depth if light penetration ( distance it lights up). The can be very bright but no depth, hence they are very good for warning lights or sidelights, not not very good, at the no, for headlights or fog/spot lights.
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Since they are now doing industrial down lighters that are rated at the same lumens output as as 500 watt metal halide, I reckon that statement is wrong:)
 
2.0_hippo said:
Yea for like £600 a fitting

More components to fail etc...
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Metal halide requires a ballast and igniter and the lamp has limited life. LED has a regulated power supply and a life of 50,000 to 100,000 hours, it uses less than a quarter of the power. Over the life of the lamp they work out considerably cheaper than MH, HP Sodium or MV:)
All our street lights are slowly changing over the LED to cut electricity demand/cost.
 
2.0_hippo said:
I can imagine that to get an equivalent LED replacement to the same lumen output is probably quite expensive at the moment ?
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Bored with Christmas so looked up some figures.

60Watt domestic bulb 800 lumens = 13.3 lumens per watt.
Tungsten Halogen car bulb = 24 lumens per watt.
HID bulb = 50 lumens per watt.
CREE LED = 186 lumens per watt
All figures approximate and obtained from the internet.

No contest, LED rules OK?:D
 
Datatek said:
Bored with Christmas so looked up some figures.

60Watt domestic bulb 800 lumens = 13.3 lumens per watt.
Tungsten Halogen car bulb = 24 lumens per watt.
HID bulb = 50 lumens per watt.
CREE LED = 186 lumens per watt
All figures approximate and obtained from the internet.

No contest, LED rules OK?:D
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But the cheapo components within the drivers always fail !!!

Yes metal halide costs more to run but the igniter and ballast last forever
Just a coil of cable within the ballast unlike the loads of capacitors and resistors within modern LED drivers
 
2.0_hippo said:
But the cheapo components within the drivers always fail !!!

Yes metal halide costs more to run but the igniter and ballast last forever
Just a coil of cable within the ballast unlike the loads of capacitors and resistors within modern LED drivers
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Halide lamps don't last though and there is not much to fail in the LED drivers. I've also had ballasts fail.
 
defender300td1 said:
yea hate em i just put high beam on if its too much in my eyes they know why !
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i know what you mean mate.

cant moan, i had them fitted on my freelander :eek:- although hardly ever got flashed at by other drivers ?? they were aimed down though...

but i do also flash people with aftermarket HID's if their blinding me.

and my HID's in my OEM lights have a high beam flap in the HID lens so my main beam is also the xenon, which is nice and bright when you flash other oncoming xenon users :D
 
2.0_hippo said:
i know what you mean mate.

cant moan, i had them fitted on my freelander :eek:- although hardly ever got flashed at by other drivers ?? they were aimed down though...

but i do also flash people with aftermarket HID's if their blinding me.

and my HID's in my OEM lights have a high beam flap in the HID lens so my main beam is also the xenon, which is nice and bright when you flash other oncoming xenon users :D
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No I don't flash em I give em what I get !
 
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