help required for 2.5 diesel 1998 non starter

Ratae · Feb 8, 2022

al-one-arm said:
battery supplier assured us it was fully charged, it read 12.47 v on the dvm.

12.47 isn't fully charged. Quite a way off it.
www.optimabatteries.com/experience/blog/fact-alternators-are-not-designed-to-charge-dead-batteries
Stick it on a battery charger then try again.

Datatek · Feb 8, 2022

Ratae said:
12.47 isn't fully charged.
www.optimabatteries.com/experience/blog/fact-alternators-are-not-designed-to-charge-dead-batteries
Stick it on a battery charger then try again.

I missed that

should be 12.7 or more if fully charged

al-one-arm · Feb 8, 2022

ok will put in on charge and see if that makes a differance

Jon Dor · Feb 8, 2022

al-one-arm said:
unfortunately , neither me or my brother can get down to get underneath car to hit the starter.

That's why we give birth to kids...not adults!

Jon Dor · Feb 8, 2022

al-one-arm said:
unfortunately the parking space is directly off the side of the road, moving it forward even a foot would have it onto and blocking the road

Some say...many a P38 has blocked many a road!

RangeRoller dt · Feb 9, 2022

Get a two ft bit of batten. Put one end on the starter and the hammer on the other end (from above) tap it as someone turns the key. In my experience standing a year shouldn’t be too much of a problem, mine would be hissy If left that long on a slope. Never liked it for some reason. Fine on the flat

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

just out of curiosity, which part of the starter do you hit? the solenoid or the motor itself?

Datatek · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
just out of curiosity, which part of the starter do you hit? the solenoid or the motor itself?

Solenoid.

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

i dont think there is anything wrong with the solenoid, when you turn the key you get a solid clunk,which suggests the starter gear is flinging out but the engine does not turn over

tomcat59alan · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
i dont think there is anything wrong with the solenoid, when you turn the key you get a solid clunk,which suggests the starter gear is flinging out but the engine does not turn over

But is it pulling in far enough for contact to be made to complete the electric circuit to allow the starter motor to turn? It may just need a tap.a long Jack handle may suffice.

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

i still need to know what size socket i need to put on the crankshaft, as its 10 miles each way to get to it, and i want to have the right tools with me when i go up there.thanks

Datatek · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
i dont think there is anything wrong with the solenoid, when you turn the key you get a solid clunk,which suggests the starter gear is flinging out but the engine does not turn over

The contacts corrode on the solenoid. The starter is the pre engaged type, so as the solenoid energises it flings the gear out to mesh with the ring gear, but if the contacts are corroded, there will be no power to the motor itself.

tomcat59alan · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
i still need to know what size socket i need to put on the crankshaft, as its 10 miles each way to get to it, and i want to have the right tools with me when i go up there.thanks

Bit late now but I'll try and see if I can measure it tomorrow if nobody comes up with an answer.

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

i am planning to test it in this sequence. 1. put socket on breaker bar connect to crankshaft and try turning engine over, if that works, then 2, hit starter whilst key being turned. so i need to take with me 1 breaker bar, 2.correct socket 3, hammer 4. 3ft piece of timber.

Datatek · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
i am planning to test it in this sequence. 1. put socket on breaker bar connect to crankshaft and try turning engine over, if that works, then 2, hit starter whilst key being turned. so i need to take with me 1 breaker bar, 2.correct socket 3, hammer 4. 3ft piece of timber.

Personally, I would reverse the order as it's much easier to whack the solenoid than it is to grovel on the floor to get a spanner on the crank nut.

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

not with only one arm its not.hoping the timber will stay on starter whilst i hit it with a hammer.plus if the engine is seized there is no point going any further..

Datatek · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
not with only one arm its not.hoping the timber will stay on starter whilst i hit it with a hammer.plus if the engine is seized there is no point going any further..

I really doubt the engine is seized, that would be incredibly unlucky. You need 2 people when you whack the solenoid, one to turn the ignition key, the other to whack. Whacking it without the key turned will likely do nothing.

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

i can get disabled brother to turn the key he has emphysema and cant do much without getting out of breath.

Datatek · Feb 9, 2022

al-one-arm said:
i can get disabled brother to turn the key he has emphysema and cant do much without getting out of breath.

OK, good luck with it

al-one-arm · Feb 9, 2022

thanks

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