Discovery 2 air suspension to spring conversion

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Stanleysteamer said:
Which is exactly what I did! Sold it recently, got £1000 for it in a terrible state, mind you they got the original engine and box too. Could have sold it over and over again!View attachment 216281
This is what it was like in its prime went like sh!t off a polished shovel!:D:D:D:D:D
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You will always get decent money for old minis, I know where there is one the lad might be giving
up on it as he has no where to keep it, I may take it an sell it on.
Haha my first car was a mini HMS 201S started of black it was meant to get painted gun metal grey
& came back red ffs not sure what deal my old man done lol
I worked in a car scrap yard back then & got all the free parts I needed. :D
 
kevstar said:
You will always get decent money for old minis, I know where there is one the lad might be giving
up on it as he has no where to keep it, I may take it an sell it on.
Haha my first car was a mini HMS 201S started of black it was meant to get painted gun metal grey
& came back red ffs not sure what deal my old man done lol
I worked in a car scrap yard back then & got all the free parts I needed. :D
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My first car was a Mini 850 de luxe, white with a black roof. Followed by a grey one I repainted yellow with matt black roof, bonnet and boot! It looked like a bumble bee but still someone ran into it saying he "didn't see me!" I made the two into one good one, as the first one had been tuned slightly but was rusty. Then wrapped it round a tree! So that is how I started on car mechanics. never looked back. But I am jealous of anyone who works in a scrap yard, at least from the parts point of view!
Wifey alos owned a BX. 1600 wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pud but was reliable and a good load carrier. Comfortable too. We 've lots of various Citroens and Renaults over the years!
 
Stanleysteamer said:
We 've lots of various Citroens and Renaults over the years!
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Don't use bad words with me lad lol
Wee minis were great little cars sounds as if you had as much fun as I did. :D
I nearly hit a cow bloody thing standing in the middle of a back road to the scrappy
fkn shat myself...ended up sideways only a few feet from it dam thing never flinched then it casually
strolled up the road to the farmer. haha
 
kevstar said:
Don't use bad words with me lad lol
Wee minis were great little cars sounds as if you had as much fun as I did. :D
I nearly hit a cow bloody thing standing in the middle of a back road to the scrappy
fkn shat myself...ended up sideways only a few feet from it dam thing never flinched then it casually
strolled up the road to the farmer. haha
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(Shh, don't tell anyone, but I lost my cherry in the back of my first Mini, with a girl who was 6 feet tall Took a bit of doing! Used to prop one of the seats up with a tennis racket. The other stayed up on its own for some reason. People were always asking me for a "game" told them "I don't have any balls". Then fell about laughing! They thought I was mad. Still in touch with her, every Christmas. Great times!)
Used to find mine skidded a bit on Michelin ZXs, but then I drove like a tw@t in those days. Can't remember the 3 numbers but the three letters were VNY. Girlfriend's youngest sister had a great sense of yuma. "very nasty yobbo" she said with a big grin!
 
Stanleysteamer said:
(Shh, don't tell anyone, but I lost my cherry in the back of my first Mini, with a girl who was 6 feet tall Took a bit of doing! Used to prop one of the seats up with a tennis racket. The other stayed up on its own for some reason. People were always asking me for a "game" told them "I don't have any balls". Then fell about laughing! They thought I was mad. Still in touch with her, every Christmas. Great times!)
Used to find mine skidded a bit on Michelin ZXs, but then I drove like a tw@t in those days. Can't remember the 3 numbers but the three letters were VNY. Girlfriend's youngest sister had a great sense of yuma. "very nasty yobbo" she said with a big grin!
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I had bucket seats no chance of doing much in mine I also had a few of my girl friends sisters
they tasted very yuma too. :oops:
I ran Dunlop's back then also had mirror tinted windows & a set of dixy horns stuffed in the
battery tray which the police couldnt find where id put them pmsl :D
 
kevstar said:
I had bucket seats no chance of doing much in mine I also had a few of my girl friends sisters
they tasted very yuma too. :oops:
I ran Dunlop's back then also had mirror tinted windows & a set of dixy horns stuffed in the
battery tray which the police couldnt find where id put them pmsl :D
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You bad boy!
Dixie horns.lol! Takes me back! I did see one once that had headlights that turned with the steering, did you ever see those on a Mini? I've never seen a pair since. :(
 
Stanleysteamer said:
You bad boy!
Dixie horns.lol! Takes me back! I did see one once that had headlights that turned with the steering, did you ever see those on a Mini? I've never seen a pair since. :(
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Very trick nope never seen those. A lad in the next village has a z cars mini with a bussa engine
mental brutal thing id love to build one of them. :cool:
 
Interceptorxj said:
I assure you it doesn't have any form of air suspension, the hydraulic system has gas filled spheres which act as shock absorbers but are not moving parts, the moving parts of the suspension are purely hydraulic not air.
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I'm not going to argue with you. You're clearly one of those people who is right regardless of the facts laid before them...
 
Interceptorxj said:
I assure you it doesn't have any form of air suspension, the hydraulic system has gas filled spheres which act as shock absorbers but are not moving parts, the moving parts of the suspension are purely hydraulic not air.
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The gas in question is nitrogen, presumably used because air is 78% nitrogen, they called it "hydropneumatic" as "pneumatic" means "to do with air".
Your assertion that the gas filled spheres act as shock absorbers is wrong for two reasons.
Firstly, air or nitrogen is compressible and thus springy and this is where the springiness in this form of suspension comes from,
Secondly, shock absorption is a mixture of oil and air in that the oil is non-compressible and would thus simply transmit the shocks directly, not absorb them, but when the fluid is mixed with a gas it becomes partially compressible. Either by allowing the oil to pass through tiny holes into another air filled chamber, (conventional shocks) or into a sphere via leaf valves, under a diaphragm which has above it the compressible air/nitrogen.
In the first case the shock absorption is performed by normally allowing the oil to pass quickly one way but more slowly in the other. Adjustable shocks allow you to adjust the flow in one direction, or the other or both.
The spheres are not "gas filled" the top half is filled with gas the bottom half, under the membrane, is open to the hydraulic part of the system.
As the membranes in the spheres move constantly under compression and relaxation it is debatable that you could say they are moving parts or not!
see this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydro...eans of,and controls the suspension movements.
 
Nitrogen does not expand and contract due to temperature, like air does... I have a few cylinders of it, to service fire extinguishers, which is why they use it... My lads Gold R has all four tyres full of N2 instead of air.
 
tilly2 said:
Nitrogen does not expand and contract due to temperature, like air does... I have a few cylinders of it, to service fire extinguishers, which is why they use it... My lads Gold R has all four tyres full of N2 instead of air.
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Unless his tyres were mounted in a 100% nitrogen atmosphere, his tyres contain plenty of air.
 
Not enough to make any difference.... You would be surprised how much air expands and contracts in heat/cold. An air filled fire extinguisher can be +/- 3 bar difference in hot/cold environments. And there isnt a lot in a fire can.. Which is why manufacturers recommend Nitrogen.
 
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tilly2 said:
Not enough to make any difference.... You would be surprised how much air expands and contracts in heat/cold. An air filled fire extinguisher can be +/- 3 bar difference in hot/cold environments. And there isnt a lot in a fire can.. Which is why manufacturers recommend Nitrogen.
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Are you now going to tell me that you can buy a fire extinguisher filled with air?
They aren't filled with air due to any contaction or expanding but because the moisture inside would cause rusting of the inside and it contains oxygen which is the last thing you want to give a fire. Which is why fire 'cans'???? are filled with substances that either smother the fire, foam or powder, cool it down, water, or starve it of oxygen, CO2 or argon gas. I've never come across an extinguisher filled with nitrogen.
And why are we discussing fire extinguishers? I commented on filling tyres with nitrogen, which by the way, unless was DRY nitrogen would still contain WATER!
 
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