Diesel Leak from Timing Case

border · Jun 1, 2020

neilly said:
Ask him to check the stroke on the injection plunger is at 1.54mm using a Dial indicator and that the timing pin fits ok at that.
What sort of diesel pump specialist is he that he cannnot bench test it?

Cheers

Says they only do Common Rail stuff these days. Mate of mine says he might be able to sort it.

jamesmartin · Jun 1, 2020

neilly said:
Ask him to check the stroke on the injection plunger is at 1.54mm using a Dial indicator and that the timing pin fits ok at that.

What sort of diesel pump specialist is he that he cannnot bench test it?

Cheers

one without access to a testing machine

border · Jun 1, 2020

jamesmartin said:
if you have it timed ie crank aand cam marks align pump pin fits, matey has cocked up the pump timing when refitting pump pulley

Is there a way to correct the pump timing ?

jamesmartin · Jun 1, 2020

border said:
Is there a way to correct the pump timing ?

if the pump flange has been removed and refitted in the wrong position youd need to ascertain the correct position as below

border · Jun 1, 2020

jamesmartin said:
if the pump flange has been removed and refitted in the wrong position youd need to ascertain the correct position as below

Thanks out of my Depth, but got a Mate that should be able to do it

jamesmartin · Jun 1, 2020

border said:
Thanks out of my Depth, but got a Mate that should be able to do it

it cant be far away as its running but that process has to be at no1 injection point

border · Jun 1, 2020

jamesmartin said:
it cant be far away as its running but that process has to be at no1 injection point

Thanks Mate

Disco1BFG · Jun 1, 2020

My two penneth:-

Your timing is out - and not by much - either the FIP flange has been put back on out of place, OR, the belt is a tooth out ...

As James and Neilly have said, setting the FIP injection point can only be done using a DTI - see the video James linked to above...

Here are several more for your perusal:-

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRssffMP_F8_SCJcqFLq4Ow/search?query=injection+pump+timing

Mike at Britannica has a pragmatic no nonsense northener approach to stuff, which sits well with me....

border · Jun 1, 2020

Disco1BFG said:
My two penneth:-

Your timing is out - and not by much - either the FIP flange has been put back on out of place, OR, the belt is a tooth out ...

As James and Neilly have said, setting the FIP injection point can only be done using a DTI - see the video James linked to above...

Here are several more for your perusal:-

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRssffMP_F8_SCJcqFLq4Ow/search?query=injection+pump+timing

Mike at Britannica has a pragmatic no nonsense northener approach to stuff, which sits well with me....

Watched a few of his Vids, that Bloke knows his stuff, nearly as clever as James.

border · Jun 5, 2020

Aint tried nothing yet with the Pump ordered Dial Gauge wont be here till next week.
I know yous have heard it all before but thought id give it one last try.
Got the Correct Timing Pins both in and Marks lined up. , But can I Fu!!k get the belt to go back on, Really Tight. loosed the 3 bolts on pump wheel, pretty sure ive done everything else right from info on Vids ect, but still cant get the dam thing to go on, very little in it.
What have I done wrong now. ?

border · Jun 6, 2020

Still no joy getting this Belt to go round, seems like it's shrunk

neilly · Jun 6, 2020

border said:
Still no joy getting this Belt to go round, seems like it's shrunk

Did you release the tensioner?

Cheers

border · Jun 6, 2020

neilly said:
Did you release the tensioner?

Cheers

Yes Mate even took it off to try but still the same.

jamesmartin · Jun 6, 2020

border said:
Still no joy getting this Belt to go round, seems like it's shrunk

is it fitted fully on crank pulley,its easy for it not to be, and you fit it on crank and cam then injection pump, when its on cam and crank carefully take up any slack by rotating cam anticlockwise,then with pump bolts slack fit on pump pulley

border · Jun 6, 2020

jamesmartin said:
is it fitted fully on crank pulley,its easy for it not to be, and you fit it on crank and cam then injection pump, when its on cam and crank carefully take up any slack by rotating cam anticlockwise,then with pump bolts slack fit on pump pulley

Got pump bolts slack, it's on crank, can't get cam to rotate

jamesmartin · Jun 6, 2020

border said:
Got pump bolts slack, it's on crank, can't get cam to rotate

it will be stiff but it must rotate a little unless belts fitted and theres no more slack

border · Jun 6, 2020

jamesmartin said:
it will be stiff but it must rotate a little unless belts fitted and theres no more slack

I have boths pins fitted flywheel and pump, should I remove them to turn cam?

jamesmartin · Jun 6, 2020

border said:
I have boths pins fitted flywheel and pump, should I remove them to turn cam?

no, if its timed marks aligned pins fitted ,fit belt on crank and cam,ensure crank is correct because it easily jumps from been engaged at the top but jumps on top of a tooth at the bottom, then remove any slack in belt by turning cam a little

border · Jun 6, 2020

jamesmartin said:
no, if its timed marks aligned pins fitted ,fit belt on crank and cam,ensure crank is correct because it easily jumps from been engaged at the top but jumps on top of a tooth at the bottom, then remove any slack in belt by turning cam a little

How do I turn the cam?

jamesmartin · Jun 6, 2020

border said:
How do I turn the cam?

socket and bar on the center bolt, you are only trying to remove slack so fraction of a tooth

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