Diary of a first time Range Rover owner

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Agreed. I can't think that new battery on jump leads + existing battery wouldn't be enough juice to get a crank. Jump leads would have to be pretty low gauge to drop voltage that much.

Looks like starter solenoid to me or other electrical/immobiliser fault. :(
 
Silly afterthought, but have you run the gear selector through the range or tried in neutral as well as park? I could be a faulty/stuck/loose inhibitor switch on the gear selector... Had that one with an XJ6 that didn't always register in park - pull through the gears and back usually sorted! :rolleyes:
 
speedyyellow said:
Sorry, but why would a different new battery work if the current new one doesn't? I don't follow your logic.
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Getting late but thought you said battery dont fit .
If you got cheap **** jump leads that get hot and lose power then you ain't got anywhere fast especially if you tried jumping it through your supposedly good battery that you say has 12v that hasn't been tested start from scratch then we can go from there .
I know all about batterys seeing as I went on a coarse as you don't and think 12v makes a battery good.
 
Rob4x40 said:
Silly afterthought, but have you run the gear selector through the range or tried in neutral as well as park? I could be a faulty/stuck/loose inhibitor switch on the gear selector... Had that one with an XJ6 that didn't always register in park - pull through the gears and back usually sorted! :rolleyes:
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Then why would it click !

Put yours in drive turn the key you won't hear any clicks



Only silence doh
 
If a new battery on jump leads didn't crank it, another new one will be just the same. That is if your jump leads aren't totally inadequate (in which case they would probably catch fire - which you'd notice). I'm afraid you'll need to get some help. You need someone underneath the car to check for voltage at the solenoid terminal when you turn the key to start. Since you can hear a relay click, chances are you will see voltage there. But be aware that the spade connector on the solenoid is a weak point on most cars. If it gets loose and corroded, there will be too much resistance and resulting voltage drop, leading to a solenoid that fails to engage the starter. Make sure the connection is good, check for voltage at the solenoid and make sure all ground leads from battery to engine and chassis are tight. If it still doesn't work, your starter is shot and needs service or replacement. If, on the other hand, you don't get voltage at the solenoid, it's a whole other kettle of fish which we don't need to open until you've performed the checks I suggested. Mine behaved just like yours on occation and after servicing the starter it has never failed to crank.
 
Just to eliminate it as a potential cause, my jump leads are fine. They're at least as thick as the battery leads in the vehicle.

I've just ordered a replacement starter motor from Emmotts for £35 quid, and having read a bit about replacing them I don't suppose anyone local wants to fit it for me? ;)
 
speedyyellow said:
Just to eliminate it as a potential cause, my jump leads are fine. They're at least as thick as the battery leads in the vehicle.

I've just ordered a replacement starter motor from Emmotts for £35 quid, and having read a bit about replacing them I don't suppose anyone local wants to fit it for me? ;)
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Look out your window, bet there is not a queue of volunteers stood in the rain with tool boxes. :D:D
 
speedyyellow said:
...having read a bit about replacing them I don't suppose anyone local wants to fit it for me?
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I'm quite local to you mate, I'll give you a hand, though I can't promise much in the way of skill!

wammers said:
Look out your window, bet there is not a queue of volunteers stood in the rain with tool boxes. :D:D
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Au contraire. Plus it's stopped raining...
 
Its Saturday good luck,should of tested starter before shelling out money but hey ho

I'm sure your get it sorted .

Good luck
 
Update time. AA man turned up and did a test on the old battery which said it was charged ok and putting out 500 cca.

He then got his long metal pole out and gave the starter a fair few whacks while I tried to turn it over but no good. I'm currently waiting for a flatbed to come and recover me home.

One thing he said was if I replace it myself and then call them out again they'll charge me top dollar for it which seemed a bit harsh.
 
speedyyellow said:
Update time. AA man turned up and did a test on the old battery which said it was charged ok and putting out 500 cca.

He then got his long metal pole out and gave the starter a fair few whacks while I tried to turn it over but no good. I'm currently waiting for a flatbed to come and recover me home.

One thing he said was if I replace it myself and then call them out again they'll charge me top dollar for it which seemed a bit harsh.
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Well that's bull**** as your allowed 3 Consecutive call outs on the same problem unless they have changed their policy
so apart from hitting with a hammer did he tell you its reviving power ?
If not you still can't be sure .

Bloody AA men
 
Given that it won't turn over with the existing battery, the existing battery with a boost pack, the existing battery with another 800 cca battery connected or finally with the AA mans booster pack, I'm fairly confident that it is actually the starter motor that's kaput.

Once it's home I can start crawling around underneath to see what's actually wrong.
 
speedyyellow said:
Given that it won't turn over with the existing battery, the existing battery with a boost pack, the existing battery with another 800 cca battery connected or finally with the AA mans booster pack, I'm fairly confident that it is actually the starter motor that's kaput.

Once it's home I can start crawling around underneath to see what's actually wrong.
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it can only take a loose for that to happen
Its just if you know there is power to it then you can almost be more than certain just trying to help
 
Try connecting one of your jump leads from the battery negative (with the battery connected) to a good earthing point on the engine. If the starter/engine turns over then you've got an earthing fault.
 
that aa man is talking ****e lol. never heard anything like that before, and ive used them a fair bit, does sound like the starter though, samme happened on my audi a8.......whilst in a multi story! me and the man with the yellow van had to push and roll it all the way down as his van was to big to fit inside.
 
Being I'm a member its a bit of a catch 57 !

If my starter broke and I called the AA
And the next day I called them out as long as I had rectified the problem ie vai replacing ect I would get a call out but its hard to prove in some cases and seldom used
It could be a relay or a loose wire for the same starter so hard to in force its basicly there foor **** takes but there is a limit of three call outs per item here is an extract from their terms and conditions !


Service will not be provided where the fault has been identified by the AA for a breakdown of the same Vehicle within the preceding 28 days and has re-occurred because of Your failure to act upon the AA’s recommendation;


Ps anyone wanting a speedy response ie no van first then have to wait for a recovery as they do
Have a problem with your brakes Occur;);)

The AA are not allowed to tamper with brakes :)
 
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