Changing coils back to air!

mark1971 · Jun 23, 2017

Hey guys
My dads 2001 vogue has coils fitted, but, all the EAS gubbins IS still in place, I'm just about to rebuild pump and block for him as no doubt there's going to be issues and for the price of bits these days it just makes sense.. he's bought 4 new dunlops and fixings..question is, they also replaced the shocks when they did the springs, (he's still got old air springs and shocks) it's sitting around normal ride height with coils so I'm wondering if we can just swap coils only or are the shocks different too on the coil kits!??
TIA

Grrrrrr · Jun 23, 2017

Dunno but original shocks should be Boge.

wammers · Jun 23, 2017

mark1971 said:
Hey guys
My dads 2001 vogue has coils fitted, but, all the EAS gubbins IS still in place, I'm just about to rebuild pump and block for him as no doubt there's going to be issues and for the price of bits these days it just makes sense.. he's bought 4 new dunlops and fixings..question is, they also replaced the shocks when they did the springs, (he's still got old air springs and shocks) it's sitting around normal ride height with coils so I'm wondering if we can just swap coils only or are the shocks different too on the coil kits!??
TIA

Cannot see any reason you would change the shocks when fitting coils.

Tony e · Jun 23, 2017

Fit the air springs and see how it is at full lift. It will either rock n roll or be solid as a rock if they wont travel enough. Nothing lost easy to swop later

myfirstl322 · Jun 23, 2017

Whatever shocks are on it won't affect ride height whatever any fool may utter, it may be they were 'matched' to the springs but tbh they will probably work fine if they are not gubbed.
Leave them be, get back on air and see how it all feels, if it feels sh!t then you know what needs changed.
Bon chance.

Tony e · Jun 23, 2017

myfirstl322 said:
Whatever shocks are on it won't affect ride height whatever any fool may utter, it may be they were 'matched' to the springs but tbh they will probably work fine if they are not gubbed.
Leave them be, get back on air and see how it all feels, if it feels sh!t then you know what needs changed.
Bon chance.

Just said that

myfirstl322 · Jun 23, 2017

Tony e said:
Just said that

Didya?
Great minds and all that

I put more ink into though you lazy half frog!!

Tony e · Jun 23, 2017

myfirstl322 said:
Didya?
Great minds and all that

Might only have a prob at top level if theres not enough travel. Soon find out if it rides like a brick

myfirstl322 · Jun 23, 2017

I presume we're talking travel here.
No idea on EAS travel on any RR, let alone the Sports sister twice removed, lol.

Tony e · Jun 23, 2017

Yep shock travel. They do go quite high specially off road axles crossed an all that

myfirstl322 · Jun 23, 2017

Whatever the limit of current shox are, thatsyerlot.
Can't imagine that 2 different shox are going to deviate much,.
450mm is alway 450mm unless you want to call it 1.5 ft.

Tony e · Jun 23, 2017

myfirstl322 said:
Whatever the limit of current shox are, thatsyerlot.
Can't imagine that 2 different shox are going to deviate much,.
450mm is alway 450mm unless you want to call it 1.5 ft.

Me neather. Should be fine. He could take the bottom off and stretch it out and compare it with one of the old ones that he has

mark1971 · Jun 25, 2017

Sorry for late reply!
Been away couple of days in poor signal area...
Putting them on this week, I just wondered myself why they had changed all 4 shocks too as old units are not leaking etc obviously seems they just purchased a pricey full coil kit instead of paying a few pennies to repair the air!
Cheers all

wammers · Jun 25, 2017

Shocks will need checking if put back on air. Front shocks have a longer stroke than rear shocks. Some may fit front shocks all round when fitting coils to get more rear articulation if car has been used off road. Front shocks CANNOT be fitted to rear when on air. Or the bags can deform and flip off the end caps.

ovalandrover · Jun 25, 2017

if it has 2 inch lift shock fitted when changed to coils you will have the same problem as wammers described also the rear bags could blow out if going over somthing similar to a speed hump and rear wheels leave the ground. or put up on a hoist that leaves the wheels to hang

wammers · Jun 25, 2017

ovalandrover said:
if it has 2 inch lift shock fitted when changed to coils you will have the same problem as wammers described also the rear bags could blow out if going over somthing similar to a speed hump and rear wheels leave the ground. or put up on a hoist that leaves the wheels to hang

And allow the height sensors to go beyond their normal travel if hung.

mark1971 · Jun 25, 2017

Thanks again, Will check shocks as suggested..
It's sitting around normal ride height..
Not been off road, was previously used as an ambulance somewhere..
It's seem like it's been well looked after apart from on coils..

Changing coils back to air!

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