P38A Car history

Grrrrrr · Apr 24, 2019

marjon said:
How/what/when I been stitched up your honour.

Will the ice cream still be frozen by the time it gets hear

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J

Don't trust him. He'll have eaten the lot and claim it melted and escaped during transit. Midget Gems don't melt. Just picture them and imagine the taste explosion on your tongue.

Grrrrrr · Apr 24, 2019

Henry_b said:
The 4.6 is the 4.0 just stroked..

Liner issues depend on the block and how it's been treated..

The Block cracks behind the liner and the block "shrinks" away from the liner, 'tis most apparent when hot when the ally contracts and pulls away.. " Tap Tap Tap " Not all suffer this issue mind you!!

To negate this issue the cooling system has to be maintained to a high standard, overheating this motor isn't an option,

LPG if fitted correctly won't affect the motor, my 38a has had some form of LPG on it since 2003, starting out with a BRC system - which eventually morphed into an AC-Stag system, original engine and original gaskets.

Stupid question but how come the old 3.9 EFi engines didn't seem to have any of these issues?

marjon · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
Don't trust him. He'll have eaten the lot and claim it melted and escaped during transit. Midget Gems don't melt. Just picture them and imagine the taste explosion on your tongue.

Sounds like a bidding war has started

Shame it will all be out of date by the time I ever think of selling

J

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
Stupid question but how come the old 3.9 EFi engines didn't seem to have any of these issues?

They do

Not many around now so you seldom hear of them, the 4.0 Gems and 3.9 "classic" is the same engine both 3.960cc just a slightly different Engine management system on the P38

Grrrrrr · Apr 24, 2019

Henry_b said:
They do
Not many around now so you seldom hear of them, the 4.0 Gems and 3.9 "classic" is the same engine both 3.960cc just a slightly different Engine management system on the P38

Ah, so they rotted through and dropped out somewhere!

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
Ah, so they rotted through and dropped out somewhere!

Yep the bodies usually let go before the engine does on the RRC

Grrrrrr · Apr 24, 2019

This is year 2000. Shouldn't it have the colour coded rear bumper in that year? Chassis has more rust than mine and mine is way older. Not a bad price at the moment though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-ro...m=273818829937&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

Datatek · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
This is year 2000. Shouldn't it have the colour coded rear bumper in that year? Chassis has more rust than mine and mine is way older. Not a bad price at the moment though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-rover-vogue-p38/273818829937?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20170920101022&meid=3750ee9c2e8240c4b23ff644f1c7612c&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=183783874361&itm=273818829937&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

No colour coded bumpers on my MY2000, but then it's a DHSE not a Vogue.

Grrrrrr · Apr 24, 2019

Datatek said:
No colour coded bumpers on my MY2000, but then it's a DHSE not a Vogue.

Ah, another option then. Probably easier to fit parking sensors too.

RangeRoller dt · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
This is year 2000. Shouldn't it have the colour coded rear bumper in that year? Chassis has more rust than mine and mine is way older. Not a bad price at the moment though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-rover-vogue-p38/273818829937?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20170920101022&meid=3750ee9c2e8240c4b23ff644f1c7612c&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=183783874361&itm=273818829937&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

I quite like it yes a little rusty, they all are surface rusted. Bumpers grille look like they’ve had no treatment - good sign it’s not tarted up and genuine original condition as opposed to hiding something for quick buck.

marjon · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
This is year 2000. Shouldn't it have the colour coded rear bumper in that year? Chassis has more rust than mine and mine is way older. Not a bad price at the moment though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-rover-vogue-p38/273818829937?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20170920101022&meid=3750ee9c2e8240c4b23ff644f1c7612c&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=183783874361&itm=273818829937&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

Not colour coded on my 2001 vogue either.

That looks like a reasonable punt with those low miles, but what’s reserve? Is the big question.

J

RangeRoller dt · Apr 24, 2019

Looks like new exhaust and few parts so probably too much. For right price not bad starter project. Not red though

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

Only the Vogue SE's have colour codes bumpers,

& special editions

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

Grrrrrr said:
This is year 2000. Shouldn't it have the colour coded rear bumper in that year? Chassis has more rust than mine and mine is way older. Not a bad price at the moment though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-rover-vogue-p38/273818829937?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=1&asc=20170920101022&meid=3750ee9c2e8240c4b23ff644f1c7612c&pid=100010&rk=3&rkt=12&sd=183783874361&itm=273818829937&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

It has the Oxford leather, so there is that going for it

marjon · Apr 24, 2019

Henry_b said:
Only the Vogue SE's have colour codes bumpers,

1996 autobiography has though

J

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

marjon said:
1996 autobiography has though

J

Almost every detail of an Autobiography is spec'd by the owner, so an add on in this instance was cc'd bumpers

tomcat59alan · Apr 24, 2019

Henry_b said:
Go drive a healthy 4.6 and see what ya think

402nm vs 270nm is a fair whack

214hp vs 136hp etc etc

The Derv is good in practice of lumbering around, but not in the perfromance steak, go look at any journalists review, or do a side by side comparison..

As DT said go drive one before quoting numbers, oh you forgot the mpg ones.

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

tomcat59alan said:
As DT said go drive one before quoting numbers, oh you forgot the mpg ones.

I've driven a 4.6 and it's pretty gutsy.

Can't imagine a Unit with half the power would be as thrilling

And MPG?! whats that??

tomcat59alan · Apr 24, 2019

Henry_b said:
I've driven a 4.6 and it's pretty gutsy.

Can't imagine a Unit with half the power would be as thrilling

And MPG?! whats that??

Do you measure in GPM's, you would if you drove a 4.6 the way I drove my weasel

Henry_b · Apr 24, 2019

tomcat59alan said:
Do you measure in GPM's, you would if you drove a 4.6 the way I drove my weasel

foot to the carpet with a loaded 3.5t trailer on the back she still pulled clean and quick, not too fast mind you across a farm track through a field

The V8 however doesn't need to be worked hard to move

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