Disco 2 Burst a bag converting to springs

kevstar · Mar 4, 2018

My mate borrowed my disco tonight came back with it on its back side ns bag is shot !!
Ive never had one fail until now, I think I'm just going to put springs on it.
Can anyone suggest a brand or kit that's up to the job.

brian47 · Mar 4, 2018

Replace the bags and never loan it to your mate again.

DanClarke · Mar 4, 2018

Ask the "mate" to fork out for the repair.

kevstar · Mar 4, 2018

Aye we will sort it out no big deal tbh I need a quick fix & my thinking was to eliminate future problems
with the air system as its an early model & just fit springs, its not my main motor but its a very useful one
to have

wattfield · Mar 4, 2018

I can't remember offhand where I got my conversion kit, but it cost me less than I got on eBay for the compressor!

MJI · Mar 4, 2018

kevstar said:
My mate borrowed my disco tonight came back with it on its back side ns bag is shot !!
Ive never had one fail until now, I think I'm just going to put springs on it.
Can anyone suggest a brand or kit that's up to the job.

Conti or Dunlop

brianconwy · Mar 5, 2018

I used Britpart springs around £68 and have never noticed much different from airbags. They are both just springs - its the shock absorbers that smooth out the ride. Its great not having to worry about problems again.

kevstar · Mar 5, 2018

wattfield said:
I can't remember offhand where I got my conversion kit, but it cost me less than I got on eBay for the compressor!

Did you go for a standard ride height as someone had said it sat a tad low on the rear after they done it

kevstar · Mar 5, 2018

brianconwy said:
I used Britpart springs around £68 and have never noticed much different from airbags. They are both just springs - its the shock absorbers that smooth out the ride. Its great not having to worry about problems again.

I'm always afraid to mention the B word lol did you do the shocks as well

Hellastony · Mar 5, 2018

IMO the ride with air is much better, and many think the same. The bags are so easy to change, and should be done as a service item every 5 or 6 years.

Tony

Disco1BFG · Mar 5, 2018

Hellastony said:
IMO the ride with air is much better, and many think the same. The bags are so easy to change, and should be done as a service item every 5 or 6 years.

Tony

This ^^^^ Keep the air, much better - also saves telling your insurance co about the modification

brian47 · Mar 5, 2018

Disco1BFG said:
This ^^^^ Keep the air, much better - also saves telling your insurance co about the modification

+1
With steel springs you lose more than you gain. The operative phrase is "Self Levelling" which means that no matter how much you put in the back (within reason), the suspension will level itself. You'll also lose the additional off-road lift of about 2 inches with just the press of a button on the dashboard. If you have the remote controller (plip) or the David Pye modification you're also able to lower the suspension to make loading or hitching a trailer easier.

tulipandthistle · Mar 5, 2018

Bags are service items, they should be replaced every 5 years and more if you do off roading.

sierrafery · Mar 5, 2018

Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification

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brian47 · Mar 5, 2018

sierrafery said:
Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification ...

Yeah, wot he said!

Er ..... what did he say?

neilly · Mar 5, 2018

brian47 said:
Yeah, wot he said!

He said he has got an 'Ology....

My feelin' is that if Coil springs and non ACE was that bad then LR would not have sold them, So if an owner wants to change them then let them. They can always change it back if they find it is a terrible mistake and they do not like the way it rides.

Cheers

MJI · Mar 5, 2018

brian47 said:
+1
With steel springs you lose more than you gain. The operative phrase is "Self Levelling" which means that no matter how much you put in the back (within reason), the suspension will level itself. You'll also lose the additional off-road lift of about 2 inches with just the press of a button on the dashboard. If you have the remote controller (plip) or the David Pye modification you're also able to lower the suspension to make loading or hitching a trailer easier.

Put 400kg in back with steel springs and see how level it is.

My D2 on air was level

brianconwy · Mar 5, 2018

sierrafery said:
Short introduction in psychology(i have a degree in it): thinking it's no noticeable difference in ride between coils and SLS or classic ARBs and ACE = Cognitive dissonance & self justification ...

I am not claiming springs are better just countering the almost religious obsession with keeping airbags. The only way to judge if the ride is better is by driving cars and not knowing which has which suspension. Without blind testing any opinions are likely to be biased.

brian47 · Mar 5, 2018

brianconwy said:
I am not claiming springs are better just countering the almost religious obsession with keeping airbags.

To be honest, Brian the same argument could be landed at the feet of those who advocate changing to steel springs at the slightest failing of an air bag.

brianconwy · Mar 5, 2018

I didn't change 'at the slightest failing'. I changed after the bags and height sensors had been replaced and also the compressor had its piston ring replaced and also dessicant and air filter. it worked fine for a while until the compressor failed completely. I didn't want to throw another £300 at it. However much money is thrown at it, it will still be a fifteen year old heavy lump of a car.

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