As its not something I use often, I usually borrow a mates when I need one. But I'm the kind of person who doesn't want to have to rely on someone else if possible, so thinking of buying one. His is an off vehicle one, but I would like one that does a good job on and off vehicle. Sykes Pickavant and Snap On (Blue Point) look good but expensive for occasional use. Might consider these if reasonable second hand. Can anyone recommend what I need firstly and what's worked for them. Cheers